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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5607480" data-attributes="member: 75065">Oh dear, I had to stop at page 3 as well. This lowers my already below basement level opinion of the WotC boards and a large number (not all) of people that participate in them.I took 4thcore within its context: A deadly, difficult, old school style dungeon one shot based on a slick 4e mechanic system. It certainly does go a long way to show with just a little tweak here or there the style and game experience can be altered using 4e mechanics, which in my humble opinion, shows just how good it is.But seriously, if someone posts up thier creative effort to be shared freely by the community, and it's not your cup of tea, then move on, or if you must share your 'expert' opinion, then at the very least criticise it constructively within the context for which it has been designed. That is called being helpful. The alternative, saying 'I'm not even looking at this **** because 4thcore concept is badwrongstupid etc etc, is called being a *@$%.I get that people might not like the deadly style of 4thcore. But that is totally not the issue. If I were to include the adventures into my ongoing campaign I would poach ideas without such a high degree of instant lethality. But that's what I do with adventures in general, poach ideas. But running Iron Lich as a one night change of pace, jumping PCs from 9th to 16th just for a laugh, was awesome fun.As for the magic items, there is some really cool stuff in there. Stuff worthy of comment and discussion.Anyway, I'll be following what SvD comes up with as well, and probably definitely poaching ideas from that as well.</blockquote>

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