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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1165990" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>Matt - I tried to send you email about your request for Drinking Rules, but your email address isn't working, hotmail said.</p><p></p><p>[thoughts] As an observer, I was really surprised and disappointed the way the "Rahja is drunk and doesn't know what she signed" scene went, as well as the fact that BOTH capture scenes used a surprise-round with criticals to subdue Rahja and Ines.</p><p>The take-advantage-while-drunk is just a pet peeve of mine, is all - I don't believe that people lose that much judgment & memory when inebbriated, least of all adventurers. But I'm not the DM who has to wrangle so many different characters and plotlines together... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I guess it gets the storyline accomplished, and if that's the easiest/best way to make the story move along, than I guess that's OK, MAtt.</p><p>It just rubs me the wrong way as a player to see multiple 20's coming up against other players, and surprise (unstoppable) attacks. As long as the motivating factor and the justification for those happening is The Story, I guess I'm OK with it. Actually, I felt something similar when reading Ravin's first encounter with the squad, I just didn't mention it.</p><p>I guess my reason for mentioning it now is 2-fold:</p><p>1) I'm wondering if you players were/are OK with your PC's being taken advantage of with no chance to stop it, and your specialties being dismissed/overcome (Ravin's case, IIRC)</p><p>2) It is a dangerous story hook to be re-using, Matt. Anytime you trump a PC's abilities, it bites into the pleasure we get as players in having special characters, that are the best at something. We like to see our characters shine, of course I'm sure you know, and whenever a PC's strengths are so easily overcome, it is a bit... alarming to me as a player.</p><p>How do you all feel about that?</p><p>Matt, do you see my point, from a story perspective?</p><p>We are all involved in interactive storytelling here, right? I mean, the superficial concern could be "Are we just passive participants in the story that Matt wants to tell?", but I don't think that's the case.</p><p></p><p>BTW: I don't think my character (Ubaar's) strengths have been dismissed. I'm just remarking on what I've seen happen to the others here recently. But to give an example, to help relate it for underastanding, if Ubaar sat down in an arm-wrestling competition, and lost to someone, than that had better be the God of Strength himself that beat him, or I'd ask to see the character sheet to understand how someone could have higher STR than him. We are playing powerful characters, in dangerous, critical times, and I'd assume songs and stories would be made of our valorous exploits in ridding the Forgotten Realms of Storm's despotic reign.</p><p>Each of our characters should optimally have scenes that help to showcase our strengths, and hopefully get across how we help to better the world, and why we were chosen to be on this special team. [/thoughts]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1165990, member: 1194"] Matt - I tried to send you email about your request for Drinking Rules, but your email address isn't working, hotmail said. [thoughts] As an observer, I was really surprised and disappointed the way the "Rahja is drunk and doesn't know what she signed" scene went, as well as the fact that BOTH capture scenes used a surprise-round with criticals to subdue Rahja and Ines. The take-advantage-while-drunk is just a pet peeve of mine, is all - I don't believe that people lose that much judgment & memory when inebbriated, least of all adventurers. But I'm not the DM who has to wrangle so many different characters and plotlines together... ;) I guess it gets the storyline accomplished, and if that's the easiest/best way to make the story move along, than I guess that's OK, MAtt. It just rubs me the wrong way as a player to see multiple 20's coming up against other players, and surprise (unstoppable) attacks. As long as the motivating factor and the justification for those happening is The Story, I guess I'm OK with it. Actually, I felt something similar when reading Ravin's first encounter with the squad, I just didn't mention it. I guess my reason for mentioning it now is 2-fold: 1) I'm wondering if you players were/are OK with your PC's being taken advantage of with no chance to stop it, and your specialties being dismissed/overcome (Ravin's case, IIRC) 2) It is a dangerous story hook to be re-using, Matt. Anytime you trump a PC's abilities, it bites into the pleasure we get as players in having special characters, that are the best at something. We like to see our characters shine, of course I'm sure you know, and whenever a PC's strengths are so easily overcome, it is a bit... alarming to me as a player. How do you all feel about that? Matt, do you see my point, from a story perspective? We are all involved in interactive storytelling here, right? I mean, the superficial concern could be "Are we just passive participants in the story that Matt wants to tell?", but I don't think that's the case. BTW: I don't think my character (Ubaar's) strengths have been dismissed. I'm just remarking on what I've seen happen to the others here recently. But to give an example, to help relate it for underastanding, if Ubaar sat down in an arm-wrestling competition, and lost to someone, than that had better be the God of Strength himself that beat him, or I'd ask to see the character sheet to understand how someone could have higher STR than him. We are playing powerful characters, in dangerous, critical times, and I'd assume songs and stories would be made of our valorous exploits in ridding the Forgotten Realms of Storm's despotic reign. Each of our characters should optimally have scenes that help to showcase our strengths, and hopefully get across how we help to better the world, and why we were chosen to be on this special team. [/thoughts] [/QUOTE]
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