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<blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 752070" data-attributes="member: 3649"><p>I think most Realms-bashing comes from several sources: </p><p></p><p>1. People that hate Drizzt and project that on the setting. (An aside: I've never really understood the intense dislike that some people feel towards the character. Aside from being a Drow, he's really no different than a large number of PC's I've seen.) (I'd never allow such a character in my game! The setting must be broken.)</p><p></p><p>2. People that have had the setting described to them by someone who dislikes that setting, and bases all their own dislike upon that. </p><p></p><p>3. People who have a special dislike for high-level characters and project that dislike upon the setting, as if having a couple handfulls of really powerful people means that great a deal in the everyday functioning of the Realms. (Elminster is the lover of a goddess and is 42nd level? Why doesn't he rule the world!? If I were 42nd level, I would! The setting must be terrible.)</p><p></p><p>4. People who dislike the novels or game-related fiction in general and project that dislike upon the setting. (I heard on the 'Net that Book XYZ sucked. The setting must suck as well).</p><p></p><p>5. People who dislike others who show a great deal of enthusiasm for a setting, and so project that dislike upon the setting itself. (Ew, <em>those</em> people like it? It must not be any good.)</p><p></p><p>6. And some people - a smaller number than anyone would suspect! - who have read the setting book and found it not to their taste for various reasons. </p><p></p><p>The sheer size and depth of detail that the Realms has accumulated over what? 15 years? is astounding. Probably no other game setting has such detail attached to it (The possible exception being the Traveller universe, but much of that is fan-created - not that that's a Bad Thing). (Ooops. OK. Glorantha has tons more material, I suspect, but much of it is unpublished)</p><p></p><p>That sheer level of detail will turn people off of a product, <em>especially</em> if playing with others who (1) know far more about the setting than they do and (2) those people aren't willing to give an inch about a 'point of law'. (This despite that after passing through all three editions of the game and numerous design decisions for better or for ill [coughTime of Troublescough] it's remarkable that is makes as much sense as it does). </p><p></p><p>An aside: I'm a big comics fan. I'm used to source material that regularly contradicts itself because it's been written by diverse hands over a long period of time. I've been told that some FR novels introduce enourmous continuity problems. That's the kind of thing I've been trained to ignore. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Those are the major reasons I can think of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneLigon, post: 752070, member: 3649"] I think most Realms-bashing comes from several sources: 1. People that hate Drizzt and project that on the setting. (An aside: I've never really understood the intense dislike that some people feel towards the character. Aside from being a Drow, he's really no different than a large number of PC's I've seen.) (I'd never allow such a character in my game! The setting must be broken.) 2. People that have had the setting described to them by someone who dislikes that setting, and bases all their own dislike upon that. 3. People who have a special dislike for high-level characters and project that dislike upon the setting, as if having a couple handfulls of really powerful people means that great a deal in the everyday functioning of the Realms. (Elminster is the lover of a goddess and is 42nd level? Why doesn't he rule the world!? If I were 42nd level, I would! The setting must be terrible.) 4. People who dislike the novels or game-related fiction in general and project that dislike upon the setting. (I heard on the 'Net that Book XYZ sucked. The setting must suck as well). 5. People who dislike others who show a great deal of enthusiasm for a setting, and so project that dislike upon the setting itself. (Ew, [I]those[/I] people like it? It must not be any good.) 6. And some people - a smaller number than anyone would suspect! - who have read the setting book and found it not to their taste for various reasons. The sheer size and depth of detail that the Realms has accumulated over what? 15 years? is astounding. Probably no other game setting has such detail attached to it (The possible exception being the Traveller universe, but much of that is fan-created - not that that's a Bad Thing). (Ooops. OK. Glorantha has tons more material, I suspect, but much of it is unpublished) That sheer level of detail will turn people off of a product, [I]especially[/I] if playing with others who (1) know far more about the setting than they do and (2) those people aren't willing to give an inch about a 'point of law'. (This despite that after passing through all three editions of the game and numerous design decisions for better or for ill [coughTime of Troublescough] it's remarkable that is makes as much sense as it does). An aside: I'm a big comics fan. I'm used to source material that regularly contradicts itself because it's been written by diverse hands over a long period of time. I've been told that some FR novels introduce enourmous continuity problems. That's the kind of thing I've been trained to ignore. :) Those are the major reasons I can think of. [/QUOTE]
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