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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jester47" data-source="post: 689295" data-attributes="member: 2238">Oh, well, its like that then...I just got done reading the whole (both of them) listing for the dungeon of swords in Elminster's Ecologies Appendix II.  A CAREFUL reading indicates that the complex is vast and is made up of many different layers of diggings and such.  Here is the paragraph that caught my eye:Several ruins are located in the Serpent Hills, and the ruins arefrom many different time periods. However, a relationship mayexist between several of the oldest ruins. Nobody has done a thorough study of the ruins, but I have collated enough information to give me an inkling of an idea.within.So what we could be looking at in the FRCS is a part of the greater complex.  Some things do have crossover.  The portal to the evermoors is there, and the idea that there is an extensive teleportation network is in the ecologies.  So there really is not any contradiction, but rather a narrowing of scope.  There is no description of it in the OGB, but there is in the grand tour of the realms in the BBB (Big black box).  However I remember a place guarded by flying swords in the editions previous to the FRCS book.  And I think that is what is driving me crazy, is that I saw it and dont remember where I saw it.  Maybe I am just remembering wrong.As gameplay goes, I worked around it yonks ago.  Thanks for everyones help.  Aaron.</blockquote>