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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 3801029" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>Well, they are advancing the timeline 10 years, and making some rather drastic changes to the world: Mystra is slain by Shar (and apparently Azuth and Velsharoon are killed or otherwise lost in the aftermath) and the weave goes wild and many/most mages are driven to insanity. Helm is slain as well, not to mention the Dwarven pantheon killing the Duergar deities, a war between the Shadovar and Cormyr, and the deaths of most of the drow pantheon except for Lolth and Eilistraee (looks like they are winnowing down the Demihuman deities, in line with the 4e design philosophy of fewer gods we've heard about). The planes are completely rearranged by this mayhem (presumably so that FR will now fit the standard D&D Cosmology, funny how they rewrote the FR cosmology to be unique in 3e, but in 4e it looks like they are rewriting it to fit with the core rules).</p><p></p><p>As it's described in the last line of The Grand History of the Realms "Sages in centuries to come mark the Weave's destruction in the Year of Blue Fire as the end of the old world, and the terrible beginning of the new". That sounds pretty clear they mean for the 4e realms to be something totally new and unlike anything before. It looks like they are going out of their way to create some new, post apocalyptic Forgotten Realms.</p><p></p><p>Between 1st and 2nd Edition they had the Time of Troubles, which was fairly short lived, and did kill a few deities, but the slain deities were mostly replaced and the changes to the Realms were generally superficial, and the timeline was only advanced a few months. Between 2nd and 3rd edition it stepped forward a few years and the big changes were the death of Azoun IV in battle, the rise of the Thayan Enclaves, and the appearance of the City of Shade. Now between 3rd and 4th they are advancing the timeline a decade, slaying much of the pantheons, rearranging the cosmology, shattering magic as we know it.</p><p></p><p>I don't see why I should buy in to the 4e Realms if it's so different from the Realms I've come to love and know so well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 3801029, member: 14159"] Well, they are advancing the timeline 10 years, and making some rather drastic changes to the world: Mystra is slain by Shar (and apparently Azuth and Velsharoon are killed or otherwise lost in the aftermath) and the weave goes wild and many/most mages are driven to insanity. Helm is slain as well, not to mention the Dwarven pantheon killing the Duergar deities, a war between the Shadovar and Cormyr, and the deaths of most of the drow pantheon except for Lolth and Eilistraee (looks like they are winnowing down the Demihuman deities, in line with the 4e design philosophy of fewer gods we've heard about). The planes are completely rearranged by this mayhem (presumably so that FR will now fit the standard D&D Cosmology, funny how they rewrote the FR cosmology to be unique in 3e, but in 4e it looks like they are rewriting it to fit with the core rules). As it's described in the last line of The Grand History of the Realms "Sages in centuries to come mark the Weave's destruction in the Year of Blue Fire as the end of the old world, and the terrible beginning of the new". That sounds pretty clear they mean for the 4e realms to be something totally new and unlike anything before. It looks like they are going out of their way to create some new, post apocalyptic Forgotten Realms. Between 1st and 2nd Edition they had the Time of Troubles, which was fairly short lived, and did kill a few deities, but the slain deities were mostly replaced and the changes to the Realms were generally superficial, and the timeline was only advanced a few months. Between 2nd and 3rd edition it stepped forward a few years and the big changes were the death of Azoun IV in battle, the rise of the Thayan Enclaves, and the appearance of the City of Shade. Now between 3rd and 4th they are advancing the timeline a decade, slaying much of the pantheons, rearranging the cosmology, shattering magic as we know it. I don't see why I should buy in to the 4e Realms if it's so different from the Realms I've come to love and know so well. [/QUOTE]
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