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<blockquote data-quote="M.L. Martin" data-source="post: 3801583" data-attributes="member: 4086">You're got your order backwards.&nbsp; The Chaos War (as in Dragons of Summer Flame) came first; SAGA and the Fifth Age came later and were an attempt to revive a game line that had died with a whimper shortly before DoSF.&nbsp; People talking about the change have a tendency to forget that last part--AD&amp;D DL had already become one of the few settings to be discontinued by TSR.&nbsp; The SAGA System was an attempt--a failed attempt, in the end, but an attempt--to revive the line, in part by drawing in novel readers who might have been put off by AD&amp;D.&nbsp; &nbsp; (I still think the things that really killed the line were a combination of numerous factors, including not only the alienation of a portion of the small remaining fanbase, but the greater alienation caused by DoSF, the collapse of TSR and six-month stoppage in the production schedule shortly after it launched, the weakness of some of the tie-in novels, the overly high production values for the cost, and the announcement just as WotC found its feet again that Weis &amp; Hickman would be coming back to 'save' the setting.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="M.L. Martin, post: 3801583, member: 4086"] You're got your order backwards. The Chaos War (as in [i]Dragons of Summer Flame[/i]) came [b]first[/b]; SAGA and the Fifth Age came later and were an attempt to revive a game line that had died with a whimper shortly before DoSF. People talking about the change have a tendency to forget that last part--AD&D DL had already become one of the few settings to be discontinued by TSR. The SAGA System was an attempt--a failed attempt, in the end, but an attempt--to revive the line, in part by drawing in novel readers who might have been put off by AD&D. (I still think the things that really killed the line were a combination of numerous factors, including not only the alienation of a portion of the small remaining fanbase, but the greater alienation caused by DoSF, the collapse of TSR and six-month stoppage in the production schedule shortly after it launched, the weakness of some of the tie-in novels, the overly high production values for the cost, and the announcement just as WotC found its feet again that Weis & Hickman would be coming back to 'save' the setting.) [/QUOTE]

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