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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Land Outcast" data-source="post: 2976680" data-attributes="member: 29160">well.. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> nay... they fit in the frozen north and maybe in chult...So I say: Keep the giant serpents <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Landwyrms (from Draconomicon) could make good war hulks...-----------------------------------------------------------More of a spellcasting Ogre Mage?[sblock= Complicated me]Disclaimer: Complicated me, not what you are searching for... just realized; altough, it could be modified to have more spell levels per day than here, say, duplicate the number and then you have what you are searching for ("primary" spellcaster)... also increase the modification to CR by +1.---------------------------------------------------------------You could do what I did when converting the Ogre Mage into an ogre with the "Eldrich" template:At will: Spell levels equal to his Cha. Max spell level = (CR-4)/2Example.1: CR 6, 16 Cha. with this template gets 3 spell levels, of which none can be higher than level 1. Which is to say, gets three spells lvl 1 at will.Example.2: CR 10, 20 Cha. with this template gets 5 spell levels, of which none can be higher than level 3. Five spells level 1; or two level 1 and one level three; or two level 2 and one level 1; etc...1/day: Spell levels equal to his Cha*CR. Max spell level = (CR+2)/2Example.1: CR 6, 16 Cha. with this template gets 9 spell levels, of which none can be higher than level 4. Example.2: CR 10, 20 Cha. with this template gets 50 spell levels, of which none can be higher than level 6. note.1: Has to have more or equal spells of the previous spell level (except when choosing level 1 spells). Example: -/5/3/3/3/2 -> 40 spell levels, CR 8 Cha 20note.2: Spending 4 spell levels on a lvl 2 spell awards two daily uses of it. For the complete template (based off the Ogre Mage) see the attachment.---------------------------------------------------------------------The ogre mage, created through appliance of this templateTo create an "advanced" Ogre Mage through this system I apply Warrior levels to a normal Ogre and them apply the template. Example: CR 3(Ogre) + CR 2(War 4) + CR 3(Eldritch)... That'd actually leave us with a "Normal" Ogre Mage +3d8 HDcasting 8*3, 24 spell levels per day.maximum spell level = 10/2, 5.Example "best" spells per day: -/2/2/2/1/1 Example "best" spells at will: -/1/1If desired: ask for clarifications[/sblock]Other, simplet option, would be to give them casting as Sorcerer level 4...</blockquote>

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