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<blockquote data-quote="Seraphael" data-source="post: 306311" data-attributes="member: 2003">I am almost positive that any of the &quot;sacred cow&quot; NPC's that were in fact NPC's in Ed Greenwoods campaigns were just that, NPC's. I remember reading one interview with Ed where he responded to a complain that the Knights of Myth Drannor (who were in fact PC's at one point) were to low in level for their abilities. His response was that they manipulated and were manipulated by a number of powerful NPCs (possibly Storm, Dove, Sylune et al.) in his campaign, which was (despite the overwhelming number of opinions to the contrary) a social/political campaign.As far as Elminster goes, I'm not even sure if he was featured in their campaign, as he seems to have had a more important role as the realms spokesperson to the real world and may have been invented specifically for that role (obviously if this is the case then he has been fleshed out considerably since then). If he was featured in their campaign, it was likely more in the role he has in some of the earlier novels (Shadowdale and the Finders Stone Trilogy) where he is portrayed as a manipulator and a sage rather than someone who likes to get out and harass Manshoon with a few spare fireballs now and then.I also seem to recall that the Company of Crazed Venturers (based out of Waterdeep) predated the Knights of Myth Drannor, meaning that the dalelands area was likely detailed after the North. I am willing to bet that a number of the major NPC's in the area were featured in Ed's campaign there. I don't doubt that Mirt and Durnam were PC's at one point but I'm more inclined to believe that Khelben was an NPC (with a role similar to the NPC's in his dalelands campaign), but thats just a gut feeling.Anyway, despite rumors to the contrary, Ed and his group were hardly powergamers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Seraphael, post: 306311, member: 2003"] I am almost positive that any of the "sacred cow" NPC's that were in fact NPC's in Ed Greenwoods campaigns were just that, NPC's. I remember reading one interview with Ed where he responded to a complain that the Knights of Myth Drannor (who were in fact PC's at one point) were to low in level for their abilities. His response was that they manipulated and were manipulated by a number of powerful NPCs (possibly Storm, Dove, Sylune et al.) in his campaign, which was (despite the overwhelming number of opinions to the contrary) a social/political campaign. As far as Elminster goes, I'm not even sure if he was featured in their campaign, as he seems to have had a more important role as the realms spokesperson to the real world and may have been invented specifically for that role (obviously if this is the case then he has been fleshed out considerably since then). If he was featured in their campaign, it was likely more in the role he has in some of the earlier novels (Shadowdale and the Finders Stone Trilogy) where he is portrayed as a manipulator and a sage rather than someone who likes to get out and harass Manshoon with a few spare fireballs now and then. I also seem to recall that the Company of Crazed Venturers (based out of Waterdeep) predated the Knights of Myth Drannor, meaning that the dalelands area was likely detailed after the North. I am willing to bet that a number of the major NPC's in the area were featured in Ed's campaign there. I don't doubt that Mirt and Durnam were PC's at one point but I'm more inclined to believe that Khelben was an NPC (with a role similar to the NPC's in his dalelands campaign), but thats just a gut feeling. Anyway, despite rumors to the contrary, Ed and his group were hardly powergamers. [/QUOTE]

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