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<blockquote data-quote="Cernunnos" data-source="post: 845408" data-attributes="member: 8821">For starters, if anybody here would bother to actually read most of their FR books, they'd know there are VERY few Fey'ri out and running about.&nbsp; Most of the Starym were killed by the elves for what they'd done, and those that weren't killed were in stasis for a long time, only coming out relatively recently.&nbsp; I was rather suprised why they even made it to RoF, other than the coolness factor.&nbsp; Also, the Eldreth Veluthra are quite another small group, although they appear to have at least a small amount of quiet support from some Sun Elves.&nbsp; I'd think that most elves would find them a little too heavy handed (yes, even the Sun Elves), and find their methods slightly too out there.&nbsp; Saying the Eldreth Veluthra and the Starym/Fey'ri are indicitive of the Sun Elf mentality is like saying everyone of the Middle-East persuassion is a terrorist.&nbsp; Even then, you get the kind of moral self-justifications that you get in the Israel/Palestinian conflict:&nbsp; to the Sun elves, they were there first, these things that stole their lands and destroyed their forest homes breed like flies and live as long, and the only thing that seperates them from orcs is that they smell less. Other important thing to remember:&nbsp; being better than everyone else is part of their mindset.&nbsp; They consider themselves a Chosen people (pretty much like everyone else to some extent, just more so).&nbsp; They are even patronizing to other elves.&nbsp; In their eyes, they have a kind of &quot;White Man's Burden&quot; to show everyone else &quot;true&quot; culture.&nbsp; To me, alignment w/ good and evil is alot like the definitions for legal insanity.&nbsp; True Evil (note the capital E) is well aware of right and wrongs, and violates a widely held belief for their own purpose.&nbsp; Now, while I wouldn't put the Sun Elves into this catagory, I would call some of them (Starym and Eldreth Veluthra) mis-guided.&nbsp; To their way of thinking, they are the ones going out and going good in an evil world.&nbsp; They justify the ends by the means.&nbsp; I think that comment about their racism was more an &quot;this is one of their worst hang-ups,&quot; than an indication of evil.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cernunnos, post: 845408, member: 8821"] For starters, if anybody here would bother to actually read most of their FR books, they'd know there are VERY few Fey'ri out and running about. Most of the Starym were killed by the elves for what they'd done, and those that weren't killed were in stasis for a long time, only coming out relatively recently. I was rather suprised why they even made it to RoF, other than the coolness factor. Also, the Eldreth Veluthra are quite another small group, although they appear to have at least a small amount of quiet support from some Sun Elves. I'd think that most elves would find them a little too heavy handed (yes, even the Sun Elves), and find their methods slightly too out there. Saying the Eldreth Veluthra and the Starym/Fey'ri are indicitive of the Sun Elf mentality is like saying everyone of the Middle-East persuassion is a terrorist. Even then, you get the kind of moral self-justifications that you get in the Israel/Palestinian conflict: to the Sun elves, they were there first, these things that stole their lands and destroyed their forest homes breed like flies and live as long, and the only thing that seperates them from orcs is that they smell less. Other important thing to remember: being better than everyone else is part of their mindset. They consider themselves a Chosen people (pretty much like everyone else to some extent, just more so). They are even patronizing to other elves. In their eyes, they have a kind of "White Man's Burden" to show everyone else "true" culture. To me, alignment w/ good and evil is alot like the definitions for legal insanity. True Evil (note the capital E) is well aware of right and wrongs, and violates a widely held belief for their own purpose. Now, while I wouldn't put the Sun Elves into this catagory, I would call some of them (Starym and Eldreth Veluthra) mis-guided. To their way of thinking, they are the ones going out and going good in an evil world. They justify the ends by the means. I think that comment about their racism was more an "this is one of their worst hang-ups," than an indication of evil. [/QUOTE]

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