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<blockquote data-quote="The Eternal GM" data-source="post: 3989227" data-attributes="member: 52760"><p>I've already seen a lot of major negative response to the changes on rpg.net (most seem to be concerned with the name of one minor background character... But rpg.net is weird like that) and undoubtably a lot more is to follow once the real setting loyal fans see what has been done to their setting.</p><p></p><p>"Like someone breaking into your house, taking your good furniture and replacing it all with something tacky. And swapping out all your old music of 20+ years for Britney!" Was basically how I summed it up, not for myself, but for some readers and players certainly.</p><p></p><p>To me, and I have played FR in a few editions, ran a short campaign in 3.5 and enjoyed a few novels and crpg's set there too... No, I welcome it all. Really.</p><p></p><p>Realms is post-great war and second world war... For us now I mean. Over a lifetime has passed since all the tragedy happened, and sure the political landscape has changed. We've got more migrants from other worlds (c'mon, the dragonborn arrival is no less lazy than all the other demi-humans really) and a much changed pantheon.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately, I think it fulfills its purpose though. New fans or casual fans (me included) can enjoy a setting with key elements still intact. The places are recognizable, but we don't need to have a whole library of knowledge regarding it all. It's that 'old is new again' sorta approach.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying it was absolutely the best way to handle everything. Maybe comparisons to a DC Comics 'Crisis' (which I regard as the height of shoddy, lazy and pathetic gimmick writing by the way) isn't too far off the mark if you're very invested in the game already... But then again, I really don't think a 4th Edition that continues on from 3rd Edition made much sense either.</p><p></p><p>With 4th Edition the slate is clean for FR. Will it draw in new readers and players? Dunno. Maybe it is more of an 'Ultimate FR' than 'Crisis FR' and will really work well. </p><p></p><p>It does mean that new supplements have one tidy kick off point. All the setting information as it comes out will be easy to associate with the new FR world, and not lost amid the details of the last. I know that somewhere along the line you could ask "Why make it realms at all then?" but we all know that the reason is the marketable name, setting and particularly novels.</p><p></p><p>So ultimately, I WILL be getting it, and likely enjoying it as much as I did 3rd Edition or any other. A fair chunk of fans will stick to what they know and like, whether that means swapping editions or not.</p><p></p><p>After all, I don't think Ed Greenwood's own game will be based upon it. He and his players decided against the Time of Troubles last interview I ever read with him. Don't imagine he'll be following WotC's canon for the setting, heh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Eternal GM, post: 3989227, member: 52760"] I've already seen a lot of major negative response to the changes on rpg.net (most seem to be concerned with the name of one minor background character... But rpg.net is weird like that) and undoubtably a lot more is to follow once the real setting loyal fans see what has been done to their setting. "Like someone breaking into your house, taking your good furniture and replacing it all with something tacky. And swapping out all your old music of 20+ years for Britney!" Was basically how I summed it up, not for myself, but for some readers and players certainly. To me, and I have played FR in a few editions, ran a short campaign in 3.5 and enjoyed a few novels and crpg's set there too... No, I welcome it all. Really. Realms is post-great war and second world war... For us now I mean. Over a lifetime has passed since all the tragedy happened, and sure the political landscape has changed. We've got more migrants from other worlds (c'mon, the dragonborn arrival is no less lazy than all the other demi-humans really) and a much changed pantheon. Ultimately, I think it fulfills its purpose though. New fans or casual fans (me included) can enjoy a setting with key elements still intact. The places are recognizable, but we don't need to have a whole library of knowledge regarding it all. It's that 'old is new again' sorta approach. I'm not saying it was absolutely the best way to handle everything. Maybe comparisons to a DC Comics 'Crisis' (which I regard as the height of shoddy, lazy and pathetic gimmick writing by the way) isn't too far off the mark if you're very invested in the game already... But then again, I really don't think a 4th Edition that continues on from 3rd Edition made much sense either. With 4th Edition the slate is clean for FR. Will it draw in new readers and players? Dunno. Maybe it is more of an 'Ultimate FR' than 'Crisis FR' and will really work well. It does mean that new supplements have one tidy kick off point. All the setting information as it comes out will be easy to associate with the new FR world, and not lost amid the details of the last. I know that somewhere along the line you could ask "Why make it realms at all then?" but we all know that the reason is the marketable name, setting and particularly novels. So ultimately, I WILL be getting it, and likely enjoying it as much as I did 3rd Edition or any other. A fair chunk of fans will stick to what they know and like, whether that means swapping editions or not. After all, I don't think Ed Greenwood's own game will be based upon it. He and his players decided against the Time of Troubles last interview I ever read with him. Don't imagine he'll be following WotC's canon for the setting, heh. [/QUOTE]
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