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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reaper Steve" data-source="post: 3989716" data-attributes="member: 51528">Exactly.Sorry, hardcore FR fans, but you've been fired. The truth is: FR as it stands has been driving people away (due to complexity and bloat) much faster than it has been attracting new players. Pretty much the only FR fans left are the hardcore fans. Left as it is, interest in FR will just dwindle away.The big shakeup for 4E provides a new entry point and is geared to attract more new players than the number of old players it alienates. WotC knows full well that the hardcore Realms fan will think 4E FR is the suck... and they bid you adieu.  They also know that despite the internet rage, many of you will eventually switch. As an aside, I've noticed those in the 'against' camp seem to mutate their argument to remain against it.Examples: 'OMG, they're changing the Realms!' When it's revealed that the parts of the Realms best-liked are relatively the same: 'Well, that's pretty pathetic and lazy.' Huh? You were upset they were changing it, but now you're upset that they didn't change the part you liked?Further, while many cry that the changes are lazy, unbelievable, and poorly executed, I have yet to see one suggestion of how it could have been done better. I suspect the underlying statement is: 'they didn't change the Realms to match my exact vision of them.' Am I defending 4E FR? Not exactly. (I admit I do like the changes and they are attracting me back to FR after over a decade.)I'm more pointing out that the hardcore fans need to realize that they aren't the target market for this anymore.</blockquote>

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