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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 7065691" data-attributes="member: 6777737">I don't think it has anything to do with being &quot;too good&quot; and everything to do with reinforcing the flavor of each race.&nbsp; Would it make sense for a High Elf to get +2 Con/+1 Str?&nbsp; No, that's completely against the flavor of the race.&nbsp; Would it be broken?&nbsp; No, not at all.&nbsp; How about a Half-Orc getting +2 Cha/+1 Int?&nbsp; Again, that's exactly not how the race is described and it doesn't make sense.I would say that the quantity of bonus is a balance issue, but that which attributes are selected isn't a significant consideration for balance.&nbsp; After all, regardless of which race you pick you can use ASIs to overcome any deficit.&nbsp; Half-Elves get a +4, most other races get +2 or +3.I mean, no, they probably wouldn't make a race with +2 Int and free medium armor proficiency.&nbsp; However, I would say that the Mountain Dwarf subrace is unique in that it's benefit overlaps relatively poorly with it's ability scores (only Rogue really benefits).&nbsp; The majority of subraces are quite the opposite.&nbsp; High Elves get +1 Int and an extra cantrip.&nbsp; Wood Elves get +1 Wis, Mask of the Wild, Elf Weapon Training, and Fleet of Foot and make excellent Rangers and Druids.&nbsp; Gnomes get +1 Dex or +1 Con to pair with the natural +2 Int, both secondary abilities for Wizards, and one gets a bonus cantrip and the other gets Artifacer's Lore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 7065691, member: 6777737"] I don't think it has anything to do with being "too good" and everything to do with reinforcing the flavor of each race. Would it make sense for a High Elf to get +2 Con/+1 Str? No, that's completely against the flavor of the race. Would it be broken? No, not at all. How about a Half-Orc getting +2 Cha/+1 Int? Again, that's exactly not how the race is described and it doesn't make sense. I would say that the [I]quantity[/I] of bonus is a balance issue, but that which attributes are selected isn't a significant consideration for balance. After all, regardless of which race you pick you can use ASIs to overcome any deficit. Half-Elves get a +4, most other races get +2 or +3. I mean, no, they probably wouldn't make a race with +2 Int and free medium armor proficiency. However, I would say that the Mountain Dwarf subrace is [I]unique[/I] in that it's benefit overlaps relatively poorly with it's ability scores (only Rogue really benefits). The majority of subraces are quite the opposite. High Elves get +1 Int and an extra cantrip. Wood Elves get +1 Wis, Mask of the Wild, Elf Weapon Training, and Fleet of Foot and make excellent Rangers and Druids. Gnomes get +1 Dex or +1 Con to pair with the natural +2 Int, both secondary abilities for Wizards, and one gets a bonus cantrip and the other gets Artifacer's Lore. [/QUOTE]

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