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Message: <blockquote data-quote="xoth.publishing" data-source="post: 7820245" data-attributes="member: 6986003">This just goes to show that 5E is a pretty good fit for S&S to begin with, which is obviously one of the main reasons I like the system.It's still useful (in a guide to players) to list the things that makes S&S distinct from regular fantasy, even though the rules are left mostly intact.Instead of creating a whitelist of allowed spells, my approach is to create a framework that explains what kind of magic fits the genre, and what does not. This is useful for players, who can then understand the reasoning behind certain things being left out, and useful for the GM, who then has a framework to evaluate spells from the PHB as well as other sources, and can make the final decision (another important principle of 5E).Fireball is not on the warlock spell list, so that is not a problem anyway! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But the problem is not "spells dealing damage", it's spells dealing damage to a large number of creatures at once (area spells), what I call "artillery spells" in the Sorcery chapter. (Note: Magic missile and disintegrate are somewhat unfairly lumped in with those "artillery" spells, I would in fact allow those and I'm going to remove those from the text.)As mentioned above, it's not about taking away the ability to deal damage. It's about the ability to do stuff that doesn't fit the genre or that is way too powerful in a setting where many/most opponents are "normal" people who do NOT have access to magic.(Warning: A little rant about spellcasters) Look, any spellcaster, no matter how nerfed, is still way, way more unique and flexible than any fighter or rogue can ever hope to be. So, you can't have your teleport, fireball, invisibility or fly spell? Too bad, I don't feel any pity for you. You can still climb on walls, make people your mental slaves, move things from afar, remove curses, talk to entities on other planes, etc, etc. If you don't feel that's interesting, maybe you should play a fighter instead for a while, to get an appreciation of the awesome powers you actually have as a spellcaster, nerfed or not. A spellcaster with a few banned spells is in no way a "trap" option. (End of rant!)Personally I would be okay with that as a player, but I know many people who get a lot of enjoyment out of counting every single coin after looting fallen enemies, and spending said (exactly counted) coin on various stuff after the adventure. So I think each group (GM and players) has to come up with a solution that maximizes their fun.</blockquote>

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