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<blockquote data-quote="Paid a bod yn dwp" data-source="post: 8208247" data-attributes="member: 6872763">To an extent I agree. Yes, this is what my post was largely concerning.5e has an existing optional rule that does this already. It’s the massive damage/system shock rule in the DMG. My feeling is though that the trigger for that rule (sustaining damage equal to half hp Max from one source), is too dangerous at early levels, and too high at later levels.Wound thresholds are problematic in D&amp;D if you want a rule that works equally for low level and high level opponents. If are you’re looking for that zero to super hero curve go with the DMG half-hitpoints rule. But if you want something that will work across the board then you need to decouple it from a proportion of hit-points, which is what I suggested in my previous post.There are enough safety mechanisms in 5e, to still allow for the heroic bounce back. Death saves are a pretty strong safety net, but there isn't nearly enough feeling of danger and excitement that I’d expect from an S&amp;S game. D&amp;D does high heroic well but S&amp;S should have more of an edge to it. Heroics yes, but also some unpredictability and dark threat. Without greater threat, that dark S&amp;S atmosphere is much more difficult to achieve.I agree that magic should also be focused on in this regard, but I’ve yet to properly digest the existing possibilities in the rules, and where and if changes need to be made.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Paid a bod yn dwp, post: 8208247, member: 6872763"] To an extent I agree. Yes, this is what my post was largely concerning. 5e has an existing optional rule that does this already. It’s the massive damage/system shock rule in the DMG. My feeling is though that the trigger for that rule (sustaining damage equal to half hp Max from one source), is too dangerous at early levels, and too high at later levels. Wound thresholds are problematic in D&D if you want a rule that works equally for low level and high level opponents. If are you’re looking for that zero to super hero curve go with the DMG half-hitpoints rule. But if you want something that will work across the board then you need to decouple it from a proportion of hit-points, which is what I suggested in my previous post. There are enough safety mechanisms in 5e, to still allow for the heroic bounce back. Death saves are a pretty strong safety net, but there isn't nearly enough feeling of danger and excitement that I’d expect from an S&S game. D&D does high heroic well but S&S should have more of an edge to it. Heroics yes, but also some unpredictability and dark threat. Without greater threat, that dark S&S atmosphere is much more difficult to achieve. I agree that magic should also be focused on in this regard, but I’ve yet to properly digest the existing possibilities in the rules, and where and if changes need to be made. [/QUOTE]

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