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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 8215313" data-attributes="member: 463">I guess this is the thing I'm not seeing. The S&amp;S stories I know do* have some sudden shocking protagonist deaths, but they are at the hands of something like Chun the Unavoidable or a bad-weather-bringing soul-drinking demon sword - never the random mook.Of course you can have a game where you play the random mooks in an S&amp;S world - arguably WHFRP itself is that, since it's based on the much less gritty, &amp; heavily S&amp;S-influenced, Warhammer Fantasy Battle. But I didn't think that's what Xoth was going for.*I'd go so far as to say that the sudden death of a powerful protagonist or protagonist's rival/peer/companion at the hands of an Out of Context Event is so common as to be an established S&amp;S trope. But in game terms that is what &quot;Save or Die&quot; is for - and you don't give Save or Die power to every town guard in S&amp;S. When Corum or Elric meet their end, it's not because some mook stabbed their ankle like in GoT.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 8215313, member: 463"] I guess this is the thing I'm not seeing. The S&S stories I know do* have some sudden shocking protagonist deaths, but they are at the hands of something like Chun the Unavoidable or a bad-weather-bringing soul-drinking demon sword - never the random mook. Of course you can have a game where you play the random mooks in an S&S world - arguably WHFRP itself is that, since it's based on the much less gritty, & heavily S&S-influenced, Warhammer Fantasy Battle. But I didn't think that's what Xoth was going for. *I'd go so far as to say that the sudden death of a powerful protagonist or protagonist's rival/peer/companion at the hands of an Out of Context Event is so common as to be an established S&S trope. But in game terms that is what "Save or Die" is for - and you don't give Save or Die power to every town guard in S&S. When Corum or Elric meet their end, it's not because some mook stabbed their ankle like in GoT. [/QUOTE]

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