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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Detwiller" data-source="post: 252928" data-attributes="member: 5780">Hey Nik..."I understand that you (at least in your association with Pagan) had a long-standing reputation for producing books for the love of the art rather than to make a living, but I would hope that you would respect the rest of us who have decided to try to make a living wage selling our books rather than running us down or waltzing in with lots of macho talk about 'thinning the herd.' That kind of Bill Hicks-ian Rant in E Minor kind of thing isn't going to play well here."I don't know Nik, it seems to be pretty commonplace in internet message boards, doubly so on gaming sites. In either case, I didn't mean to imply you shouldn't go ahead with a D20 Supers game, only that those doing so should attempt to reach a level of quality not yet evident in D20 supers (M&M excluded, because I haven't seen it). But so far, the D20 supers stuff (barring some of the 'near free' stuff like Vigilance which was neat) has been straight up dreck. Having everybody with access to a keyboard publish something D20 is not good for the industry in any respect, most especially for a company like Green Ronin. No one involved in Open Sourcing D20 ever imagined the license could jump around and bite them in the ass, but it has, and the backlash is not good for those actually producing decent product (such as yourselves). The thinning of the herd has already begun, and when sales diminish even more it will continue, when Distributors take the next step and cut out middle of the road companies altogether. Whatever you think, things are not going well in the house of D20 (you, of all people should know that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> ) The quicker things stabilize towards a "real" industry the better, because Diamond ain't doing too good either, and if they go, that's all she wrote.-Dennis<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></blockquote>

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