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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8783396" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think that's where you are really confused on this.&nbsp; It's not trashing Alien or Aliens to say it's not really SF.&nbsp; In fact, I also said that I really enjoyed 'Aliens' as a movie.&nbsp; I don't only love and admire SF.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm a huge Star Wars fan, yet Star Wars is obviously not SF.&nbsp; It's not trashing or degrading Star Wars in any way to say it isn't Sci Fi.&nbsp; &quot;Star Wars: A New Hope&quot; is a cinematic masterpiece and I'm in the second year of running a Star Wars D6 campaign.&nbsp; It's not like I don't love fantasy, space opera, science fantasy, and all sorts of genre of speculative fiction.&nbsp; For that matter, I'm a massive Robert Silverburg fan.&nbsp; I doubt there is anyone on these boards more familiar with his body of work than I am.&nbsp; I'm not trashing his fiction to say that he often writes soft science fiction - stuff that blurs the boundaries enough that if someone wanted to say it was 'fantasy' I'd have a hard time objecting.&nbsp; There is no stigma to writing soft science fiction or fantasy.What I learned from this thread is that out there somewhere in the world there is some proxy argument where &quot;not really science fiction&quot; means in the context of that argument something entirely different.&nbsp; I'm glad I don't hang out in those circles.But equally, I don't even think most of this is even that complex.&nbsp; I think underneath all of this, people are just upset I don't like Aliens as a setting and they do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8783396, member: 4937"] I think that's where you are really confused on this. It's not trashing Alien or Aliens to say it's not really SF. In fact, I also said that I really enjoyed 'Aliens' as a movie. I don't only love and admire SF. I'm a huge Star Wars fan, yet Star Wars is obviously not SF. It's not trashing or degrading Star Wars in any way to say it isn't Sci Fi. "Star Wars: A New Hope" is a cinematic masterpiece and I'm in the second year of running a Star Wars D6 campaign. It's not like I don't love fantasy, space opera, science fantasy, and all sorts of genre of speculative fiction. For that matter, I'm a massive Robert Silverburg fan. I doubt there is anyone on these boards more familiar with his body of work than I am. I'm not trashing his fiction to say that he often writes soft science fiction - stuff that blurs the boundaries enough that if someone wanted to say it was 'fantasy' I'd have a hard time objecting. There is no stigma to writing soft science fiction or fantasy. What I learned from this thread is that out there somewhere in the world there is some proxy argument where "not really science fiction" means in the context of that argument something entirely different. I'm glad I don't hang out in those circles. But equally, I don't even think most of this is even that complex. I think underneath all of this, people are just upset I don't like Aliens as a setting and they do. [/QUOTE]

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