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<blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 1136553" data-attributes="member: 3887"><p>To play Devil's advocate for a moment, I don't think that's quite right. A game is also a social engagement, and hosting [running] a game could also be likened to hosting a party. Does the guest at a party have to bring a bottle of wine? Or wear a costume if the host has indicated its a costume party? Extending your argument, you could say that the host has a agreed to assume the costs of party and all a guest owes is to attend. But what about basic ettiquette? At some level, you have to agree that the host of the party [or DM of a campiagn] is putting a lot more effort into the affair than the guest/player. And while its neat to render social entanglements in sterile economic terms [I don't think I want to attend any social gathering that's a "barter of mutual gain without cost"], its also inherently false, IMHO, because it discounts a lot of other, relevent factors, such as the social codes that govern human interaction [also called manners]. </p><p></p><p>Granted, a DM agrees to take on the work load of DM'ing. And does so [assumedly] because they enjoy it. But in what way does that relieve the players from taking into account the effort they put in? If a person cooks you dinner, you should offer them something in return, regardless of how much they enjoy cooking. Its simply polite...</p><p></p><p>In the end, its all a matter of communication and compromise. A DM shouldn't subject his players to the kind of adventures his players don't enjoy. And players shouldn't expect to be able to do anything they want in a DM's world, any more than they expect to do anything they want in the real world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mallus, post: 1136553, member: 3887"] To play Devil's advocate for a moment, I don't think that's quite right. A game is also a social engagement, and hosting [running] a game could also be likened to hosting a party. Does the guest at a party have to bring a bottle of wine? Or wear a costume if the host has indicated its a costume party? Extending your argument, you could say that the host has a agreed to assume the costs of party and all a guest owes is to attend. But what about basic ettiquette? At some level, you have to agree that the host of the party [or DM of a campiagn] is putting a lot more effort into the affair than the guest/player. And while its neat to render social entanglements in sterile economic terms [I don't think I want to attend any social gathering that's a "barter of mutual gain without cost"], its also inherently false, IMHO, because it discounts a lot of other, relevent factors, such as the social codes that govern human interaction [also called manners]. Granted, a DM agrees to take on the work load of DM'ing. And does so [assumedly] because they enjoy it. But in what way does that relieve the players from taking into account the effort they put in? If a person cooks you dinner, you should offer them something in return, regardless of how much they enjoy cooking. Its simply polite... In the end, its all a matter of communication and compromise. A DM shouldn't subject his players to the kind of adventures his players don't enjoy. And players shouldn't expect to be able to do anything they want in a DM's world, any more than they expect to do anything they want in the real world. [/QUOTE]
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