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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6143980" data-attributes="member: 87792">I have never had a player complain when I've set monsters behind the scenes without normal math.&nbsp; Which I do from time to time.&nbsp; And I've never complained about that when other DMs have done it.&nbsp; What Jim is complaining about isn't the DM actually having the power to do what they did.&nbsp; Jim's complaining about DM deus ex machina dickery by instakilling PCs with no foreshadowing (so not even a sphere of annhiliation in a statue's mouth or a set of realistic stone statues near a Medusa's lair).And it's not just Jim who objected to this.&nbsp; It was the Cleric of Misha's player.&nbsp; What they were both objecting to was being instakilled for no reason with no rolls.In what edition of D&amp;D would a DM saying &quot;Rocks fall out of the sky and your character and yours are both dead&quot; go down well?&nbsp; Because that's the problem here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6143980, member: 87792"] I have never had a player complain when I've set monsters behind the scenes without normal math. Which I do from time to time. And I've never complained about that when other DMs have done it. What Jim is complaining about isn't the DM actually having the power to do what they did. Jim's complaining about DM deus ex machina dickery by instakilling PCs with no foreshadowing (so not even a sphere of annhiliation in a statue's mouth or a set of realistic stone statues near a Medusa's lair). And it's not just Jim who objected to this. It was the Cleric of Misha's player. What they were both objecting to was being instakilled for no reason with no rolls. In what edition of D&D would a DM saying "Rocks fall out of the sky and your character and yours are both dead" go down well? Because that's the problem here. [/QUOTE]

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