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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6144401" data-attributes="member: 48965">People who feel that what the numbers claim is a challenging encounter isn't for their players... People who want to runa a more simulationist game...Who said you have to engage them in combat? Now granted the Original situation was one where the DM messed up, but the other situation concerning the army of minions was an example where the PC's (including Jim) had the chance to flee and Jim chose not to... are you saying there should never be encounters that PC's can't beat down?Yet many people don't get a satisfying experience from using the numbers as you claim, so it's not universal... In other words they are nice as guidelines but I don't think any DM should auto-magically expect a good play experience just because he follows them slavishly.Did you really just use the subjective "fun" card as a defense? IMO, player entitlement is telling me, as DM I have to design an encounter within the guidelines 4e suggests or I'm having badwrongfun.  Do I expect you to design your characters in a particular way, say by following suggested builds?  If not, why should you have the right to expect me to build encounters a certain way.  I'm starting to think this is just one of those differences in playstyle things.  You like the predictability and level of challenge the books guidleines provides not everyone finds that as enjoyable for numerous reasons.Hey you're entitled to your oppinion, I personally think the numbers are only as important as their ability to produce a good gaming session. Different strokes for different folks I guess.I never said the DM handled the situation well... but even in the above post you seem to be saying a DM should be able to create and use monsters with instakill abilities... so are you saying the DM was wrong because the guidelines should be followed (which seems to be your earlier position)... Or are you saying the DM should be able to use monsters with things like insta-kill abilities if used well?Here's just one suggestion...Maybe you want to use 4e in a simulationist manner... ironically enough there is some precedent for this since some of the DC's in the game are presented in an objective manner (as opposed to the level appropriate manner you seem to prefer).</blockquote>

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