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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6144868" data-attributes="member: 87792">Translation: Because Jim was going to be trouble we can't infer anything about the DM handing a truckload of ammunition to him?Very badly.&nbsp; The only question is whether he'd have let himself be talked down from getting quite that pissed off due to some spectacularly bad DMing calls.&nbsp; Probably.&nbsp; The DM took 300 points of damage off the PCs (two PCs) and 150 from the enemy so far as I can tell.&nbsp; Also the DM ruined the PCs action economy at a tactical level.That &quot;God&quot; was a liability.Fail.&nbsp; Killing two PCs won't shorten a fight unless it kills the bad guy as well or you want the bad guy to win.The DM did not &quot;give&quot; them back their characters at full power.&nbsp; The DM forced their characters back on them when they had said they didn't want this due to the fiction.I can see how some players would have accepted after they'd kicked up a fuss that the DM give them back their character while still trying to keep face.&nbsp;&nbsp; And would accept the DM saving face by such a blatant measure.&nbsp;&nbsp; But forcing resurrection on people even after they said no?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6144868, member: 87792"] Translation: Because Jim was going to be trouble we can't infer anything about the DM handing a truckload of ammunition to him? Very badly. The only question is whether he'd have let himself be talked down from getting [I]quite[/I] that pissed off due to some spectacularly bad DMing calls. Probably. The DM took [I]300[/I] points of damage off the PCs (two PCs) and 150 from the enemy so far as I can tell. Also the DM ruined the PCs action economy at a tactical level. That "God" was a liability. Fail. Killing two PCs won't shorten a fight unless it kills the bad guy as well or you want the bad guy to win. The DM did not "give" them back their characters at full power. The DM [I]forced[/I] their characters back on them [I]when they had said they didn't want this due to the fiction.[/I] I can see how some players would have accepted [I]after they'd kicked up a fuss[/I] that the DM give them back their character while still trying to keep face. And would accept the DM saving face by such a blatant measure. But forcing resurrection on people even after they said no? [/QUOTE]

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