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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6145049" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>This entire tale could have been averted by:</p><p></p><p>1 - Explicit table agenda calibration.</p><p></p><p>2 - Knowing the tools in your toolbox, understanding what you are trying to build with respect to those tools' utility and then properly and precisely applying them to facilitate construction of an edifice that doesn't go wobbly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except for Jim. Given Jim's, seemingly belligerent, self-stylings toward utter social dysfunction (which given that he is cognizant of it, its external to any formal diagnosis of schizophrenia), its hard to imagine things not going pear-shaped with him willfully "flexing those social discord muscles" in a group enterprise such as TTRPGing. I've seen more than my fair share of "Jims". Most "Jims" will resist a collective effort at operative conditioning toward assimilating to the collective, so you're typically left with intimidating them or just outright excising them...or you endure...and everyone suffers for it...and Jim doesn't care. </p><p></p><p>What is amusing is the awesome edition warring logical circus that would use a poster child for willful, social dysfunction as a line of evidence for what is wrong with 4e's ruleset or what it allegedly engenders. That is the fundamental, irrational attribution that underwrites bigotry and bad science; take a highly anomalous anecdotal part/data point/person and extrapolate a whole/series/culture (race/ethos) from it. Its that same sort of rubbish that got our hobby maligned in the early 80s and the decade thereafter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6145049, member: 6696971"] This entire tale could have been averted by: 1 - Explicit table agenda calibration. 2 - Knowing the tools in your toolbox, understanding what you are trying to build with respect to those tools' utility and then properly and precisely applying them to facilitate construction of an edifice that doesn't go wobbly. Except for Jim. Given Jim's, seemingly belligerent, self-stylings toward utter social dysfunction (which given that he is cognizant of it, its external to any formal diagnosis of schizophrenia), its hard to imagine things not going pear-shaped with him willfully "flexing those social discord muscles" in a group enterprise such as TTRPGing. I've seen more than my fair share of "Jims". Most "Jims" will resist a collective effort at operative conditioning toward assimilating to the collective, so you're typically left with intimidating them or just outright excising them...or you endure...and everyone suffers for it...and Jim doesn't care. What is amusing is the awesome edition warring logical circus that would use a poster child for willful, social dysfunction as a line of evidence for what is wrong with 4e's ruleset or what it allegedly engenders. That is the fundamental, irrational attribution that underwrites bigotry and bad science; take a highly anomalous anecdotal part/data point/person and extrapolate a whole/series/culture (race/ethos) from it. Its that same sort of rubbish that got our hobby maligned in the early 80s and the decade thereafter. [/QUOTE]
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