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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6148665" data-attributes="member: 17106">Yes, it's valid. And referees of all sorts absolutely do these things. Wise? No. Umpires (and DMs) who do a lot of that tend to be weeded out over time, but they do have that level of authority.I think it's important to note that many of those situations are places where the player gets screwed by the rules, and the DM/referee steps in to give them a fair chance.A reasonable approach, perfectly within the DM's discretion.I do think, however, that if you are going to take a passive approach to DMing, you have to accept the consequences, which can include players doing questionable things that may derail the game. I do not think that a game designer's job is to prevent those kinds of situations. I doubt that many of them can be attributed to a presence or lack of "balance" in the rules themselves. And your assertion that one popular rpg falls apart like a house of cards any time a player tries to do anything while another less popular rpg is impermeable to the assaults of players' will and has made the DM's judgment obsolete, is so extreme a statement, and so at odds with my own experiences and the market trends of the game, that I do continue to wonder where that assertion comes from.</blockquote>