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Freedom of Movement doesn't work on Hold Person?!
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<blockquote data-quote="Gynsala" data-source="post: 1534346" data-attributes="member: 18967"><p>I tried taking them off the list, but I kinda feel I need to talk about the ones I take off as much as what I want to keep on.</p><p></p><p> 1) Daze - no - mind affecting</p><p> 2) Grease - yes - magical means of hampering movement *</p><p> 3) Sleep - no - mind affecting</p><p> 4) Cause Fear - no - mind affecting</p><p> 5) Tasha's Hideous Laughter - yes - **</p><p> 6) Gust of Wind - yes - magical means of hampering movement</p><p> 7) Hypnotic Pattern - no - mind affecting</p><p> 8) Magic Circle against Evil (you are summoned!) - no - your alignment is being repelled, not you</p><p> 9) Hold Person - yes - I would house rule it is not mind affecting, i know according to the normal rules it is.</p><p> 10) Suggestion (worded to have you stand still) - no - mind affecting</p><p> 11) Halt Undead - yes - weird, but true</p><p> 12) Ray of Exhaustion (failed save) - no - ***</p><p> 13) Confusion - no - mind affecting</p><p> 14) Otiluke's Resilient Sphere - no - </p><p> 15) Dominate Person (forced to stand still) -no-</p><p> 16) Wall of Force -no-</p><p> 17) Repulsion -yes- ****</p><p> 18) Geas/Quest - no -</p><p> 19) Flesh to Stone -no-</p><p> 20) Forcecage -no-</p><p> 21) Maze -no-</p><p> 22) Binding -no- mind affecting and hugely powerful</p><p> 23) Otto's Irresistible Dance - no - (sigh) mind affecting</p><p> 24) Power Word Stun -no-</p><p> 25) Imprisonment -no- just way to high level to be affected by FoM</p><p></p><p>*Instinct tells me that grease would not be affected by FoM because it creates a physical thing that slips you up, it isn't the magic itself stopping you. Then again, the same is true for Web, which is obviously affected, so this one is, too.</p><p>** Tasha's is affected for the same reason I've now had to change my mind on Otto's Irresistable dance... the mind affecting part. For Tasha's, it's not that you really are finding something so funny that you must laugh and can't move, it's that your body is being forced to laugh whether you like it or not (which is what i thought otto's was, except relating to dancing). It's on the wire, and I could probably be convinced otherwise, but since it is not mind affecting, I say FoM works against it. Since Otto's actually makes you want to dance, I don't think FoM works against it.</p><p>*** More than affecting movement, Ray of Exhaustion drains energy from you, not hampering movement so much as just making you tired. </p><p> **** I'm very much on the fence. I think I'd have to say this would be the highest level spell FoM would work against. </p><p></p><p>I know it's convoluted and nothing like how WotC probably thinks, but it's whta's in my head.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gynsala, post: 1534346, member: 18967"] I tried taking them off the list, but I kinda feel I need to talk about the ones I take off as much as what I want to keep on. 1) Daze - no - mind affecting 2) Grease - yes - magical means of hampering movement * 3) Sleep - no - mind affecting 4) Cause Fear - no - mind affecting 5) Tasha's Hideous Laughter - yes - ** 6) Gust of Wind - yes - magical means of hampering movement 7) Hypnotic Pattern - no - mind affecting 8) Magic Circle against Evil (you are summoned!) - no - your alignment is being repelled, not you 9) Hold Person - yes - I would house rule it is not mind affecting, i know according to the normal rules it is. 10) Suggestion (worded to have you stand still) - no - mind affecting 11) Halt Undead - yes - weird, but true 12) Ray of Exhaustion (failed save) - no - *** 13) Confusion - no - mind affecting 14) Otiluke's Resilient Sphere - no - 15) Dominate Person (forced to stand still) -no- 16) Wall of Force -no- 17) Repulsion -yes- **** 18) Geas/Quest - no - 19) Flesh to Stone -no- 20) Forcecage -no- 21) Maze -no- 22) Binding -no- mind affecting and hugely powerful 23) Otto's Irresistible Dance - no - (sigh) mind affecting 24) Power Word Stun -no- 25) Imprisonment -no- just way to high level to be affected by FoM *Instinct tells me that grease would not be affected by FoM because it creates a physical thing that slips you up, it isn't the magic itself stopping you. Then again, the same is true for Web, which is obviously affected, so this one is, too. ** Tasha's is affected for the same reason I've now had to change my mind on Otto's Irresistable dance... the mind affecting part. For Tasha's, it's not that you really are finding something so funny that you must laugh and can't move, it's that your body is being forced to laugh whether you like it or not (which is what i thought otto's was, except relating to dancing). It's on the wire, and I could probably be convinced otherwise, but since it is not mind affecting, I say FoM works against it. Since Otto's actually makes you want to dance, I don't think FoM works against it. *** More than affecting movement, Ray of Exhaustion drains energy from you, not hampering movement so much as just making you tired. **** I'm very much on the fence. I think I'd have to say this would be the highest level spell FoM would work against. I know it's convoluted and nothing like how WotC probably thinks, but it's whta's in my head. [/QUOTE]
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