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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3642123" data-attributes="member: 31734">First, let me point out that I do, in fact, understand your position.&nbsp; I am not being purposefully obtuse to irritate you or anything, but I do not agree that you are making a valid or even convincing argument.&nbsp;This is where you can stop because you've made an error.&nbsp; You cannot, in fact, hold those two things to be true because the FoM row does not have footnote 2.&nbsp; Footnote 2 explicitly defines that column for Successful Swim Check, but not for others.&nbsp; For example, it clearly doesn't apply to the 'Has a swim speed' row.&nbsp; I see a break in your logical reasoning when you then make that assumption.The argument you are suggesting, however, is that FoM increases your swimming capability by a minimum factor of 4 (it's possibly higher depending on flying capabilities and should you allow flying underwater).&nbsp; If you are correct, I was wondering if you would humor me with the in game reasoning of how one can be free of the impediments of the water and yet move four times as quickly through it?&nbsp; Can a cheetah with FoM (e.g. animal companion) move at 50ft through water?&nbsp; Can those with FoM now charge and run through water (enabling the cheetah to move briefly at 500ft)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 3642123, member: 31734"] First, let me point out that I do, in fact, understand your position. I am not being purposefully obtuse to irritate you or anything, but I do not agree that you are making a valid or even convincing argument. This is where you can stop because you've made an error. You cannot, in fact, hold those two things to be true because the FoM row does not have footnote 2. Footnote 2 explicitly defines that column for Successful Swim Check, but not for others. For example, it clearly doesn't apply to the 'Has a swim speed' row. I see a break in your logical reasoning when you then make that assumption. The argument you are suggesting, however, is that FoM increases your swimming capability by a minimum factor of 4 (it's possibly higher depending on flying capabilities and should you allow flying underwater). If you are correct, I was wondering if you would humor me with the in game reasoning of how one can be free of the impediments of the water and yet move four times as quickly through it? Can a cheetah with FoM (e.g. animal companion) move at 50ft through water? Can those with FoM now charge and run through water (enabling the cheetah to move briefly at 500ft)? [/QUOTE]

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