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Freeze soul is now disjoin soul. Heavy update.
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<blockquote data-quote="index" data-source="post: 1652096" data-attributes="member: 21195"><p><strong>Freeze Soul - or - Disjoin Soul ?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Before, the duration was 'concentration, maximum 1 round/level'. I don't know if the spell is too powerful now.</p><p></p><p>An eighth level spell SHOULD be very powerful. But I recently re-read the PH spells, and it seems that with every change, WotC nerfs spells more and more.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Am I allowed to nit-pick spelling and grammar, or should I worry about the spell mechanics? (BTW, when I'm cruising the web for stuff to use, I automatically skip anything with spelling or grammar problems that catch my attention.)</p><p></p><p>1d4 per round doesn't sound like much, but they are also paralyzed (can only defend themselves with Silent Still spells), and you seem to be trying to close up ANY defenses they might be able to find against the damage, other than the initial Will save.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are they changed into an incorporeal creature? Please explain the loss of physical body in game terms, so that when Joe User invents a another new spell three months from now, his DM will be able to figure out how it works with this spell. (The incorporeal subtype is described in the glossary of the Monster Manual. It seems to be described at http://underdark.iti.fi/~skiriki/SRD/TypesSubtypesAndAbilities.html . (I don't know if that is 3.0 or 3.5.) It is described at http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/ctypes/Incorporeal_Subtype.html .)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, I see why you didn't just say 'paralyzed and incorporeal'. But are you sure 'paralyzed and incorporeal' wouldn't suit your purposes?</p><p></p><p>Ouch.</p><p></p><p>Many 'all powerful' spells either mention that Wish will restore the victim or, in a very few cases (such as Mindblank), explicitly say they trump Wish. Which applies here?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cheap at this level, but certainly enough to prevent use of Eschew Material Components. Nice.</p><p></p><p>Ferret, I raised lots of questions with the previous version of your spell. I wasn't saying you needed to change those things, I just wanted you to be aware of the implications of your spell.</p><p></p><p>--index</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="index, post: 1652096, member: 21195"] [b]Freeze Soul - or - Disjoin Soul ?[/b] Before, the duration was 'concentration, maximum 1 round/level'. I don't know if the spell is too powerful now. An eighth level spell SHOULD be very powerful. But I recently re-read the PH spells, and it seems that with every change, WotC nerfs spells more and more. Am I allowed to nit-pick spelling and grammar, or should I worry about the spell mechanics? (BTW, when I'm cruising the web for stuff to use, I automatically skip anything with spelling or grammar problems that catch my attention.) 1d4 per round doesn't sound like much, but they are also paralyzed (can only defend themselves with Silent Still spells), and you seem to be trying to close up ANY defenses they might be able to find against the damage, other than the initial Will save. Are they changed into an incorporeal creature? Please explain the loss of physical body in game terms, so that when Joe User invents a another new spell three months from now, his DM will be able to figure out how it works with this spell. (The incorporeal subtype is described in the glossary of the Monster Manual. It seems to be described at http://underdark.iti.fi/~skiriki/SRD/TypesSubtypesAndAbilities.html . (I don't know if that is 3.0 or 3.5.) It is described at http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/ctypes/Incorporeal_Subtype.html .) Okay, I see why you didn't just say 'paralyzed and incorporeal'. But are you sure 'paralyzed and incorporeal' wouldn't suit your purposes? Ouch. Many 'all powerful' spells either mention that Wish will restore the victim or, in a very few cases (such as Mindblank), explicitly say they trump Wish. Which applies here? Cheap at this level, but certainly enough to prevent use of Eschew Material Components. Nice. Ferret, I raised lots of questions with the previous version of your spell. I wasn't saying you needed to change those things, I just wanted you to be aware of the implications of your spell. --index [/QUOTE]
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