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Freeze soul is now disjoin soul. Heavy update.
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<blockquote data-quote="Ferret" data-source="post: 1656265" data-attributes="member: 4052"><p>Things in yellow I'm changing it. The rest is an explanation or clarification.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Non-existant is not a status, in game terms, they don't exist for the duration of the spell. Simple as that. The soul is seperated from the body and on the plane of shadow. I think the DMG may define what a soul is, basicly everything you can poke or prod is your body. The rest is your soul.</p><p></p><p>The body is between planes, I would have liked to say limbo but that is a plane, and as far as I'm is concerned not existing and being on limbo(not the plane) just as well be the same thing. Its the same way that a word document doesn't 'exist' until you open it. It's still there though. <span style="color: Yellow">The body won't take anymore damage, it'll be suspened. I did think about making the con damage only take effect after the spell ends, and in hindsight that looks like a better idea</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>When you cast the Dispel magic (and the check succeeds) you end the spell. If the character makes another will save the body is spat out onto the Prime material plane, but has no soul. The character suffers from the con damage and the previous 'suspension' of damge ceases. To put the soul and the body back together (fuse) you must first but them near/ontop of each other *on the same plane*(reunite). Then you cast Lesser wish to stick the soul back into the body. If you fail the will save then the body is destroyed. <span style="color: Yellow">To put things right you could cast a Wish spell to recreate the body and if they are near to each other they will fuse. It should take a level off or something.</span></p><p></p><p>When you cast Mordenkainen's disjuction you fuse the body and soul. The character is back to who they were. Two become one, and an other anology you feel like. The character takes the damage they recieved and stops taking further damage. However the character is now on the plane of shadows. No wish spells required.</p><p></p><p>When you cast wish the character and soul appear fused, and on the prime material palne. You still take the damage to con.</p><p></p><p> <span style="color: Yellow">As long as there is something that can be seperated from the soul then it works. The incorporeal creature might not have a body but it isn't just a soul.</span></p><p></p><p> All edited. Mostly. </p><p></p><p>I'm really sure that Substenance is a real word, really really sure. Although there is a nagging voice that says I'm just phoneticly spelling substance with an odd dialect... And I always that whilst They'' usually refered to multiple people, it can be a non-gender specific pronoun, such as "They could be a he or a she".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It seems like a way to go around the problem rather then fix it. It already makes a faint outline, kinda. I don't like the ease of reversing the spell by being able to.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Yellow">Also there is a tie to where they were and the soul, thats how the spells (mentioned) affect the character.</span></p><p></p><p>I may change it so that the body is just souless and the soul is trapped in the plane of shadows. The way it is I can't imagine it A) being any use in short term combat and B) in the long term any fun for the person aflicted with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ferret, post: 1656265, member: 4052"] Things in yellow I'm changing it. The rest is an explanation or clarification. Non-existant is not a status, in game terms, they don't exist for the duration of the spell. Simple as that. The soul is seperated from the body and on the plane of shadow. I think the DMG may define what a soul is, basicly everything you can poke or prod is your body. The rest is your soul. The body is between planes, I would have liked to say limbo but that is a plane, and as far as I'm is concerned not existing and being on limbo(not the plane) just as well be the same thing. Its the same way that a word document doesn't 'exist' until you open it. It's still there though. [COLOR=Yellow]The body won't take anymore damage, it'll be suspened. I did think about making the con damage only take effect after the spell ends, and in hindsight that looks like a better idea[/color] When you cast the Dispel magic (and the check succeeds) you end the spell. If the character makes another will save the body is spat out onto the Prime material plane, but has no soul. The character suffers from the con damage and the previous 'suspension' of damge ceases. To put the soul and the body back together (fuse) you must first but them near/ontop of each other *on the same plane*(reunite). Then you cast Lesser wish to stick the soul back into the body. If you fail the will save then the body is destroyed. [COLOR=Yellow]To put things right you could cast a Wish spell to recreate the body and if they are near to each other they will fuse. It should take a level off or something.[/color] When you cast Mordenkainen's disjuction you fuse the body and soul. The character is back to who they were. Two become one, and an other anology you feel like. The character takes the damage they recieved and stops taking further damage. However the character is now on the plane of shadows. No wish spells required. When you cast wish the character and soul appear fused, and on the prime material palne. You still take the damage to con. [COLOR=Yellow]As long as there is something that can be seperated from the soul then it works. The incorporeal creature might not have a body but it isn't just a soul.[/COLOR] All edited. Mostly. I'm really sure that Substenance is a real word, really really sure. Although there is a nagging voice that says I'm just phoneticly spelling substance with an odd dialect... And I always that whilst They'' usually refered to multiple people, it can be a non-gender specific pronoun, such as "They could be a he or a she". It seems like a way to go around the problem rather then fix it. It already makes a faint outline, kinda. I don't like the ease of reversing the spell by being able to. [COLOR=Yellow]Also there is a tie to where they were and the soul, thats how the spells (mentioned) affect the character.[/COLOR] I may change it so that the body is just souless and the soul is trapped in the plane of shadows. The way it is I can't imagine it A) being any use in short term combat and B) in the long term any fun for the person aflicted with it. [/QUOTE]
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