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<blockquote data-quote="Ellie_the_Elf" data-source="post: 1842606" data-attributes="member: 17018">I had a FB in my campaign-very briefly..The player's concept was an extremely dumb barbarian- specifically, he had a wisdom of 6, and played it pretty well. At 6th level, or thereabouts, he took FB.The first day of being a FB, he turned on the party after taking damage from a trap- they were able to stop him with a hold person Shortly thereafter, he took a hit in the last round of a combat, and turned on his party again. They had no way of stopping him the second time and he took down one PC before being killed by another. The party flatly refused to even think about having him raised. The net result was two dead PCs and three upset players (the one who'd killed him didn't like the fact he'd had to do it becuase he knew the FB's player loved the character). I wasn't happy about the whole mess either because the two dead PCs and the FB-killer (who retired from the group due to his guilt) were all replaced with new characters, and I'd been building the campaign around the group of PCs so I had a lot of changes to make and it took a while for everyone to settle back into things. I honestly think if I'd had a less mature group of players the whole incident might have ended the campaign.It's now one of the only PrCs that I ban- because of the fact it forces the other players to modify the way they play their own characters, or suffer if they don't.A modified version might be workable, and it would be a lot easier to deal with if the player took steps to ensure he had a good will save, but personally I wouldn't allow it again.Leisa.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ellie_the_Elf, post: 1842606, member: 17018"] I had a FB in my campaign-very briefly.. The player's concept was an extremely dumb barbarian- specifically, he had a wisdom of 6, and played it pretty well. At 6th level, or thereabouts, he took FB. The first day of being a FB, he turned on the party after taking damage from a trap- they were able to stop him with a hold person Shortly thereafter, he took a hit in the last round of a combat, and turned on his party again. They had no way of stopping him the second time and he took down one PC before being killed by another. The party flatly refused to even think about having him raised. The net result was two dead PCs and three upset players (the one who'd killed him didn't like the fact he'd had to do it becuase he knew the FB's player loved the character). I wasn't happy about the whole mess either because the two dead PCs and the FB-killer (who retired from the group due to his guilt) were all replaced with new characters, and I'd been building the campaign around the group of PCs so I had a lot of changes to make and it took a while for everyone to settle back into things. I honestly think if I'd had a less mature group of players the whole incident might have ended the campaign. It's now one of the only PrCs that I ban- because of the fact it forces the other players to modify the way they play their own characters, or suffer if they don't. A modified version might be workable, and it would be a lot easier to deal with if the player took steps to ensure he had a good will save, but personally I wouldn't allow it again. Leisa. [/QUOTE]

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