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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8667780" data-attributes="member: 177">O rly?Yeah, I was active in &quot;the scene&quot; for over a decade.Let me tell you about the Duke Sir Visivald.&nbsp; &quot;Sir&quot; means that he'd attained SCA Knighthood.&nbsp; The &quot;Duke&quot; meant that he won the royal tournament at least twice (once in 1979, and once in 1983).&nbsp; The Duke's wife, the Lady Mara, was our local Mistress of Dance, which my wife studied, so by association, I got to know Visivald a bit. Visivald was formidable on the battlefield, even when I knew him, decades after his prime.&nbsp; Even after having fought and beaten cancer, he could beat men decades younger than himself.&nbsp; I fought alongside him on the fields at Pennsic a couple of times (he and I both favored polearms as weapons). You know the one thing the Duke Sir Visivald couldn't do on the fields of Pennsic, or in any tournament?&nbsp; Kill a dragon.&nbsp; Nor could he be Gandalf.&nbsp;&nbsp; SCA combat only allows fighting other humans, most of whom were less skilled than he was.&nbsp; So, he also ran and played RPGs.&nbsp; He liked GURPS.&nbsp; He found FATE fascinating, and ran a really interesting Dresden Files game I got to play in - ahead of his time, playing online with people across the continent a decade before the pandemic...It seems outright insulting for you to suggest that somehow, wargamers could want to do things wargames don't do, but nobody else could want things other than what they were given, and indeed only ever want one thing!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8667780, member: 177"] O rly? Yeah, I was active in "the scene" for over a decade. Let me tell you about the Duke Sir Visivald. "Sir" means that he'd attained SCA Knighthood. The "Duke" meant that he won the royal tournament at least twice (once in 1979, and once in 1983). The Duke's wife, the Lady Mara, was our local Mistress of Dance, which my wife studied, so by association, I got to know Visivald a bit. Visivald was formidable on the battlefield, even when I knew him, decades after his prime. Even after having fought and beaten cancer, he could beat men decades younger than himself. I fought alongside him on the fields at Pennsic a couple of times (he and I both favored polearms as weapons). You know the one thing the Duke Sir Visivald couldn't do on the fields of Pennsic, or in any tournament? Kill a dragon. Nor could he be Gandalf. SCA combat only allows fighting other humans, most of whom were less skilled than he was. So, he also ran and played RPGs. He liked GURPS. He found FATE fascinating, and ran a really interesting Dresden Files game I got to play in - ahead of his time, playing online with people across the continent a decade before the pandemic... It seems [I]outright insulting[/I] for you to suggest that somehow, wargamers could want to do things wargames don't do, but [I]nobody else[/I] could want things other than what they were given, and indeed only ever want one thing! [/QUOTE]

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