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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 8699981" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>Which is kind of a funny thing, because we do have some documented snippets of Gary and Rob Kuntz' campaign, and we know that characters did get up to the teens of levels but continue adventuring. There is also documentation showing things like, e.g., Rob's character Robilar built his own castle and had (IIRC) two green dragons he mastered as followers/mounts. Robilar also had an army of orcish followers he used to help him in the Tomb of Horrors. So clearly they were doing both in their own games- continuing to adventure at high level (instead of retiring) and doing some domain play, but not publishing a system for the latter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suspect Jer is right. That they intended domain rulership to be part of what high level PCs did, but they had all these younger and non-wargamer players coming in (the sci-fi folks, like Lee Gold's crew in CA, were into it as of the first year) and making up more of the player base than veteran wargamers, and focused more on support for adventuring. </p><p></p><p>I would guess that they did all the domain management & wargame play more ad hoc, informed by their prior experience with the Castle & Crusade Society, where they were accustomed to running factions with a titular lord as head to occasionally RP as.</p><p></p><p>Still a little odd that they never fleshed out the domain management stuff into actual published rules until Mentzer got to it, but then, OTOH, maybe no one else in the company saw it as a real marketable thing. We know Gary published/wrote very little D&D material after 1980; mostly just a few modules in the years after.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gygax_bibliography[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 8699981, member: 7026594"] Which is kind of a funny thing, because we do have some documented snippets of Gary and Rob Kuntz' campaign, and we know that characters did get up to the teens of levels but continue adventuring. There is also documentation showing things like, e.g., Rob's character Robilar built his own castle and had (IIRC) two green dragons he mastered as followers/mounts. Robilar also had an army of orcish followers he used to help him in the Tomb of Horrors. So clearly they were doing both in their own games- continuing to adventure at high level (instead of retiring) and doing some domain play, but not publishing a system for the latter. I suspect Jer is right. That they intended domain rulership to be part of what high level PCs did, but they had all these younger and non-wargamer players coming in (the sci-fi folks, like Lee Gold's crew in CA, were into it as of the first year) and making up more of the player base than veteran wargamers, and focused more on support for adventuring. I would guess that they did all the domain management & wargame play more ad hoc, informed by their prior experience with the Castle & Crusade Society, where they were accustomed to running factions with a titular lord as head to occasionally RP as. Still a little odd that they never fleshed out the domain management stuff into actual published rules until Mentzer got to it, but then, OTOH, maybe no one else in the company saw it as a real marketable thing. We know Gary published/wrote very little D&D material after 1980; mostly just a few modules in the years after. [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gygax_bibliography[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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