Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8700023" data-attributes="member: 6799660">I must not be making myself clear, cause that was at least partly my point. That does sidle things away from the 'actually you just retired and said you led armies' theory. I would have been surprised if there was perfect consistency on any of this bitd (any more than there is now, I suppose). After a while of wanting to run armies, you want to clear dungeons; after a while of that, running armies sounds like fun. Interesting how my initial games as a kid, where eventually you ended up with castles and pet dragons (minus the eventual princess girlfriends, but I imagine Kuntz wasn't 8-12 at the time) was not far off how they ended up playing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-P" title="Stick out tongue    :-P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-P" />Which is part of the two-pronged confusion -- on one hand, even if rulership wasn't what everyone wanted, they could have made something between '74 and '84 (and anything for AD&D before Birthright), even as an optional supplement (they certainly put out niche material). On the other, if they were instead focusing on these other players, why did they not put out more stuff for post-name levels? Sure some 9-14 modules, but like some supplemental rules for people who didn't want to do the followers bit.That is what I meant earlier, perhaps mis-attributing it to Braunstein.Given the early... frustration they had with people trying to take the game in directions they didn't like, it really seems like something like this would have made it into the oD&D supplement line. Like, instead of Gods, Demigods and Heroes. That's the timeframe where I really think it is missing from the logical timeline. Of course, yes, the logical actual explanation is: they didn't release it instead of GD&H, they released GD&H. Why didn't they release it next? No one got around to it until its' time had already passed.</blockquote>

Verification