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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5313530" data-attributes="member: 82106">I'd say generally I haven't found the lack of less than level 1 monsters to be much of an issue. For one thing it is pretty rare to want to use a monster below the party's level. It does happen, but not often. At level 1 especially minions can be QUITE effective though. This is because of action economy. Level 1 PCs don't have a lot of ways to shift this in their favor. They also generally lack a lot of ways to sweep minions. You can see the issue by say tossing 20 level 1 kobold minions at a 1st level party. The result will not be pretty. The monsters get 20 attacks in the first round. Sure they don't do a TON of damage, but they actually DO do pretty close to the average damage of a level 1 monster. Now, if you were using level 0 monsters or level -1 monsters you'd get a similar effect. Filling out an encounter with them might be pretty nasty. I'd be more tempted to just use a mix of minions and level 1 monsters if I wanted to make an easier than level 1 encounter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5313530, member: 82106"] I'd say generally I haven't found the lack of less than level 1 monsters to be much of an issue. For one thing it is pretty rare to want to use a monster below the party's level. It does happen, but not often. At level 1 especially minions can be QUITE effective though. This is because of action economy. Level 1 PCs don't have a lot of ways to shift this in their favor. They also generally lack a lot of ways to sweep minions. You can see the issue by say tossing 20 level 1 kobold minions at a 1st level party. The result will not be pretty. The monsters get 20 attacks in the first round. Sure they don't do a TON of damage, but they actually DO do pretty close to the average damage of a level 1 monster. Now, if you were using level 0 monsters or level -1 monsters you'd get a similar effect. Filling out an encounter with them might be pretty nasty. I'd be more tempted to just use a mix of minions and level 1 monsters if I wanted to make an easier than level 1 encounter. [/QUOTE]

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