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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hazardjsimpson" data-source="post: 5021154" data-attributes="member: 26993">No, it's more of a question on flavor and tactics I think - it's not so much prone, but the fact that someone is knocked prone due to a trip attack. I think there's a difference between being on your back and being KNOCKED on your back, but that's hard to quantify. I think I was meaning more 'loss to Dex AC' than Flat Footed. My rather hasty post didn't do my any justice in getting my point across, sadly. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />Actually, PF states that the condition of being prone gives you a -4 to your AC against melee and +4 AC against ranged attacks. The only attack roll modifier that Prone gives is a -4 to the prone character on their attacks - attackers gain no bonuses. So where does that AC penalty come from? There are only certain things that add to AC -- Armor, dexterity, natural armor, deflection. When you're prone, you don't or wouldn't lose Armor, Natural, or any magic bonuses, so Dex seems the likely choice.I really want to be able to Sneak Attack a tripped, prone foe! Is that too much to ask? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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