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<blockquote data-quote="briggart" data-source="post: 9616930" data-attributes="member: 6805135"><p>With T2 Terminator time travel stopped making sense to me. If they actually prevented Skynet creation in T2, there would not have been any T800 sent back to kill Sarah Connor in the first place, but in the Terminator universe it seems that events that already happened in the past relative to the time when something significantly alters the future are left unchanged, even if the future that originated them no longer exists. </p><p></p><p>If the Dark Fate T800 came into the past before Cyberdyne blew up it could still be around looking to kill John even if Skynet was no longer a thing in the future. I think they said in the movie that after killing John it tried getting new orders but did not get any reply, so it just tried to figure out what to do with itself. </p><p></p><p>I can live with that. It makes sense to me that machines sent into the past would be programmed to keep a reasonably low profile. Even if they are immune to conventional firearms, heavy weapons and machinery can still destroy them and the only thing an incredibly advanced cyborg going into a killing spree in the middle of Times Square would achieve is alerting the powers that be of what may be coming. </p><p></p><p>At least, this is how I understood it. </p><p></p><p>But I get your point about the movie not giving a satisfying resolution to the old characters. I am more bothered by Natalia Reyes/Dani not seeming to me as somebody who could grow up to become the leader of the resistance. I can't put my finger on it, but even in the T1 Linda Hamilton/Sarah seemed more proactive/self-determined than Dani, but maybe it's simply because it's been a long time since I've last watched it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="briggart, post: 9616930, member: 6805135"] With T2 Terminator time travel stopped making sense to me. If they actually prevented Skynet creation in T2, there would not have been any T800 sent back to kill Sarah Connor in the first place, but in the Terminator universe it seems that events that already happened in the past relative to the time when something significantly alters the future are left unchanged, even if the future that originated them no longer exists. If the Dark Fate T800 came into the past before Cyberdyne blew up it could still be around looking to kill John even if Skynet was no longer a thing in the future. I think they said in the movie that after killing John it tried getting new orders but did not get any reply, so it just tried to figure out what to do with itself. I can live with that. It makes sense to me that machines sent into the past would be programmed to keep a reasonably low profile. Even if they are immune to conventional firearms, heavy weapons and machinery can still destroy them and the only thing an incredibly advanced cyborg going into a killing spree in the middle of Times Square would achieve is alerting the powers that be of what may be coming. At least, this is how I understood it. But I get your point about the movie not giving a satisfying resolution to the old characters. I am more bothered by Natalia Reyes/Dani not seeming to me as somebody who could grow up to become the leader of the resistance. I can't put my finger on it, but even in the T1 Linda Hamilton/Sarah seemed more proactive/self-determined than Dani, but maybe it's simply because it's been a long time since I've last watched it. [/QUOTE]
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