Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Front-liners
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Folly" data-source="post: 4212227" data-attributes="member: 62919"><p>I second the druid, simply because the wild enchant is so messed up. If you do not cheese any of the build. Druid -> Nature's Warrior -> Bit more druid (get 5th spell level and 12 hd wildshape) -> Warshaper. </p><p></p><p>The primary form that you use in this build is dire bear, since they have decent base AC and a huge strength. From NW you pick up the grapple trait(+4 grapple and constrict), the armor trait(+5 base Natural), and the fast healing trait(1 fast healing). For feats I would suggest getting Improved grapple either by burning the feats. Then also get Natural Spell, Minor Shapeshift, Practiced Spellcaster, and Multiattack if your DM allows.</p><p></p><p>For items, you acquire Belt of Strength, Wild Dragonhide Breastplate, and Wild Large Shield. </p><p>(your party helps you put your belt on after shifting)</p><p></p><p>Then you buff your 5 weapons (Unarmed, 2xClaw, Bite, 1 from Warshaper) with Greater Magic Fang.</p><p></p><p>The results at 12th:</p><p>+26/+21/+21/+21/+21 (multi attack will increase the secondaries by 3) +16 damage on primary and +9 on secondary (you do not have warshaper yet, but you have iterative on the unarmed. For reference refer to the Troll Hunter entry in the MM)</p><p></p><p>31 Standing AC (17+5NW+6Armor+3Shield) Ioun stone, barkskin, friendly cleric with shield of faith, higher bonus on the breastplate or shield can all increase this further.</p><p></p><p>12 temp hit points as a swift action at will and fast healing of 1</p><p></p><p>+35 grapple (+10 bab, +13 str, +4 size, +4 NW, +4 Improved Grapple)</p><p></p><p>You have 9 druid spellcasting levels.</p><p></p><p>HP 68+(12*ConMod)</p><p></p><p>This build avoid all of the cheese normally associated with druid builds. Further, It goes for a single concept (shifter archetype) and only uses core/complete sources. The best part of this build is that the next 5 level all either increase the builds offense or defense in significant ways. Also with more money invested you can further increase the base AC by another 9 (+5 armor and shield, Ioun stone) and you can increase hit and damage by 1 with karma beads (giving a cl 16 for GMF)</p><p></p><p>Edit: OK, maybe Minor Shapeshift is just a tad cheesy..... or maybe REALLY cheesy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Folly, post: 4212227, member: 62919"] I second the druid, simply because the wild enchant is so messed up. If you do not cheese any of the build. Druid -> Nature's Warrior -> Bit more druid (get 5th spell level and 12 hd wildshape) -> Warshaper. The primary form that you use in this build is dire bear, since they have decent base AC and a huge strength. From NW you pick up the grapple trait(+4 grapple and constrict), the armor trait(+5 base Natural), and the fast healing trait(1 fast healing). For feats I would suggest getting Improved grapple either by burning the feats. Then also get Natural Spell, Minor Shapeshift, Practiced Spellcaster, and Multiattack if your DM allows. For items, you acquire Belt of Strength, Wild Dragonhide Breastplate, and Wild Large Shield. (your party helps you put your belt on after shifting) Then you buff your 5 weapons (Unarmed, 2xClaw, Bite, 1 from Warshaper) with Greater Magic Fang. The results at 12th: +26/+21/+21/+21/+21 (multi attack will increase the secondaries by 3) +16 damage on primary and +9 on secondary (you do not have warshaper yet, but you have iterative on the unarmed. For reference refer to the Troll Hunter entry in the MM) 31 Standing AC (17+5NW+6Armor+3Shield) Ioun stone, barkskin, friendly cleric with shield of faith, higher bonus on the breastplate or shield can all increase this further. 12 temp hit points as a swift action at will and fast healing of 1 +35 grapple (+10 bab, +13 str, +4 size, +4 NW, +4 Improved Grapple) You have 9 druid spellcasting levels. HP 68+(12*ConMod) This build avoid all of the cheese normally associated with druid builds. Further, It goes for a single concept (shifter archetype) and only uses core/complete sources. The best part of this build is that the next 5 level all either increase the builds offense or defense in significant ways. Also with more money invested you can further increase the base AC by another 9 (+5 armor and shield, Ioun stone) and you can increase hit and damage by 1 with karma beads (giving a cl 16 for GMF) Edit: OK, maybe Minor Shapeshift is just a tad cheesy..... or maybe REALLY cheesy. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Front-liners
Top