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<blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 2117547" data-attributes="member: 6957"><p>The icicle crossbow is simply the example that seems to have become the poster child for the book. I also did not like most of the prestige classes, nor most of the other equipment and weapons.</p><p></p><p>The monsters were okay, but nothing spectacular. Ditto most of the spells. </p><p></p><p>The weather effects and the hazards I <em>did</em> like, but they were not enough to sell me on the book, at least for the price.</p><p></p><p>In honesty when I looked at <em>Frostburn</em> I was looking for something to supplement <em>Frost and Fur</em>, and <em>Frostburn</em> just did not fit my needs at all. About three quarters was useless from my perspective. So you are right, we likely never will agree on the comparative virtues of the books, and each of us will point to the other's virtues and call them flaws. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>I have to admit that I am having to restrain myself from jumping up and down screaming <em><strong>'Aaaargh, I hate this book!'</strong></em> because this discussion is bringing up all the things I didn't like about it, and yet seems to be making me forget those things that I <em>did</em> like about it.</p><p></p><p>And picking up the MacFarland <em>Fire Clan</em> dragon has me wanting to do an arctic adventure, so not liking <em>Frostburn</em> is a bit more galling at the moment than it might otherwise be, I went and rechecked it the day I got the dragon, just in case I had changed my mind. I had, but it was a crystalization of my previous opinion rather than a thawing.</p><p></p><p>So some of this is doubtless bitterness and disappointment. If I hadn't wanted to like it so much I probably wouldn't dislike it as much as I do.</p><p></p><p>And novel wise... I do not read R. A. Salvatore for the same reason I did not like <em>Frostburn</em>, I find his writing unbelievable. But I do read a lot of fantasy, so it is not just realism.</p><p></p><p>The Auld Grump</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheAuldGrump, post: 2117547, member: 6957"] The icicle crossbow is simply the example that seems to have become the poster child for the book. I also did not like most of the prestige classes, nor most of the other equipment and weapons. The monsters were okay, but nothing spectacular. Ditto most of the spells. The weather effects and the hazards I [i]did[/i] like, but they were not enough to sell me on the book, at least for the price. In honesty when I looked at [I]Frostburn[/I] I was looking for something to supplement [I]Frost and Fur[/I], and [I]Frostburn[/I] just did not fit my needs at all. About three quarters was useless from my perspective. So you are right, we likely never will agree on the comparative virtues of the books, and each of us will point to the other's virtues and call them flaws. :p I have to admit that I am having to restrain myself from jumping up and down screaming [i][b]'Aaaargh, I hate this book!'[/b][/i] because this discussion is bringing up all the things I didn't like about it, and yet seems to be making me forget those things that I [i]did[/i] like about it. And picking up the MacFarland [i]Fire Clan[/i] dragon has me wanting to do an arctic adventure, so not liking [i]Frostburn[/i] is a bit more galling at the moment than it might otherwise be, I went and rechecked it the day I got the dragon, just in case I had changed my mind. I had, but it was a crystalization of my previous opinion rather than a thawing. So some of this is doubtless bitterness and disappointment. If I hadn't wanted to like it so much I probably wouldn't dislike it as much as I do. And novel wise... I do not read R. A. Salvatore for the same reason I did not like [I]Frostburn[/I], I find his writing unbelievable. But I do read a lot of fantasy, so it is not just realism. The Auld Grump [/QUOTE]
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