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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 272474" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>Understood.</p><p></p><p> I could imagine a ranger school (or conclave, or sorority, or a wise ranger mentor, or even a Faerie mentor) that emphasizes some fighting along with the core ranger training (thus - maybe - producing a high level ranger / low level fighter. It's still unlikely, since rangers have their own style of fighting.)</p><p></p><p> However, I cannot visualize a fighter school that also teaches rangerhood. </p><p> Ranger training is just too exclusive, whereas fighters can be trained in many places, in many ways.</p><p></p><p> I feel that if a player wishes to multiclass, some creative thinking on the character's background is called for.</p><p></p><p> I do NOT subscribe to the idea one can learn to be a wizard by studying the wizard's (in the party) spellbook during the course of a short adventure, and presto! we have a new wizard.</p><p> If a character starts as a rogue, then changes to another class, was he a gutter rat for a while, eeking out survival in a big city? Was he a lone raider in the wild? Was he trained by a school of arms that emphasized stealth? Why does he have the level in rogue?</p><p> If a character starts as a fighter, then changes to another class, then how did he attain the one level as fighter? Who trained him? Why did they train him? Did the Druidical College believe all applicants needed martial training? (LOL. They do not even wear metal armor.) However, among elves fighter/mage training is quite common.</p><p></p><p> Someone has mentioned that a Wish will grant Feats, in his campaign.</p><p></p><p> If I were playing a character, I'd pay the enormous sum of money required to have a high level NPC wizard throw a Wish on me, to gain an extra Feat.</p><p> I would consider the money well spent.</p><p> Unfortunately, I am betting every other rich adventurer will also consider the money well spent.</p><p></p><p> Spending experience to gain Feats is an idea I would go for, and I mean I'd really go for it, in spades!</p><p> 1,000 experience points for a supposedly minor Feat? You bet. Minor Feats have this way of adding up to big results.</p><p> 10,000 experience points for a major Feat? Yes.</p><p></p><p> Sure, I want to get to high level.</p><p> But that is the point - I WANT to get to high level ... alive.</p><p> The more Feats I have, the better the chance I will do just that.</p><p></p><p> I have no problem with taking it slow and easy, gaining levels (even if my party is outracing me badly) if I can empower my character with added Feats.</p><p></p><p> Now, as far as I know, WOTC has not ruled on the effect of Wish spells (whether they can grant Feats or not.)</p><p></p><p> The experience points for Feats is - obviously - a Home Rule.</p><p> Were that I was so lucky I had a DM that allowed this kind of thing!</p><p></p><p> Ah me, I guess the real secret is in the Prestige Classes.</p><p> You make your choices and take your Feats, then augment your strength with a Prestige Class.</p><p></p><p> I guess that's the way to go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 272474, member: 2020"] Understood. I could imagine a ranger school (or conclave, or sorority, or a wise ranger mentor, or even a Faerie mentor) that emphasizes some fighting along with the core ranger training (thus - maybe - producing a high level ranger / low level fighter. It's still unlikely, since rangers have their own style of fighting.) However, I cannot visualize a fighter school that also teaches rangerhood. Ranger training is just too exclusive, whereas fighters can be trained in many places, in many ways. I feel that if a player wishes to multiclass, some creative thinking on the character's background is called for. I do NOT subscribe to the idea one can learn to be a wizard by studying the wizard's (in the party) spellbook during the course of a short adventure, and presto! we have a new wizard. If a character starts as a rogue, then changes to another class, was he a gutter rat for a while, eeking out survival in a big city? Was he a lone raider in the wild? Was he trained by a school of arms that emphasized stealth? Why does he have the level in rogue? If a character starts as a fighter, then changes to another class, then how did he attain the one level as fighter? Who trained him? Why did they train him? Did the Druidical College believe all applicants needed martial training? (LOL. They do not even wear metal armor.) However, among elves fighter/mage training is quite common. Someone has mentioned that a Wish will grant Feats, in his campaign. If I were playing a character, I'd pay the enormous sum of money required to have a high level NPC wizard throw a Wish on me, to gain an extra Feat. I would consider the money well spent. Unfortunately, I am betting every other rich adventurer will also consider the money well spent. Spending experience to gain Feats is an idea I would go for, and I mean I'd really go for it, in spades! 1,000 experience points for a supposedly minor Feat? You bet. Minor Feats have this way of adding up to big results. 10,000 experience points for a major Feat? Yes. Sure, I want to get to high level. But that is the point - I WANT to get to high level ... alive. The more Feats I have, the better the chance I will do just that. I have no problem with taking it slow and easy, gaining levels (even if my party is outracing me badly) if I can empower my character with added Feats. Now, as far as I know, WOTC has not ruled on the effect of Wish spells (whether they can grant Feats or not.) The experience points for Feats is - obviously - a Home Rule. Were that I was so lucky I had a DM that allowed this kind of thing! Ah me, I guess the real secret is in the Prestige Classes. You make your choices and take your Feats, then augment your strength with a Prestige Class. I guess that's the way to go. [/QUOTE]
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