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<blockquote data-quote="Belen" data-source="post: 827040" data-attributes="member: 1405">I have to admit that I never thought my rant would go so far, but it is good to hear the thoughts of others on the boards.&nbsp; It's great to see that civility can reign again on the boards.&nbsp; While I was hoping that no one would take my original post personally, I had expected a different response.&nbsp; Thank you, Eric, for keeping things on track and adding the humor and wit that the conversation needed!Earthshadow:&nbsp; Great posts and I agree with you.&nbsp; (Note: Not about the d20 system though)&nbsp; It's the attitude of the guys you encountered that has turned a lot of players away.&nbsp; I think the edition wars has a lot to do with this as well.&nbsp; The flame wars between the 2e and 3e crowd are vicious and can appear in just about any post.Personally, I have seen non-DnD people act just as superior, especially before d20.&nbsp; You were automatically looked down upon if you played such a &quot;broken&quot; game.&nbsp; Heck, I never played the other games because 1) I have already invested a considerable amount of money in DnD 2) I just cannot learn multiple systems.&nbsp; It's hard enough to recruit players in the bible belt!Reaper:&nbsp; Thanks for the vote of confidence and the support.&nbsp; I WAS hoping to provoke discussion and I have enjoyed all the great posts.NoOneofconsequence also makes some great remarks.&nbsp; I used to post a lot of my concerns and problems on EnWorld, but the flaming and lacks of response has driven me away recently.&nbsp; I would say that 4 out of 5 of my players have switched to the &lt;gasp&gt; WOTC boards because we see more civility there.&nbsp; Heck, I started posting there too!&nbsp; I see much less flame there, but not as much experience.&nbsp; It seems that a lot of younger gamers are there as compared to EnWorld. (Would that be a cause of concern?&nbsp; Does EnWorld not provide a good environment for younger players?)Azlan hits the mark on the head with his definitions of snobbery.&nbsp; My definition would include those and add that anyone who disses someone for an opinion, mocks them, or feel superior because they can PROVE someone is wrong is an gaming elitist.Maybe we should begin to wonder why WOTC gets the younger crowd.&nbsp; EnWorld's name gets thrown around there often enough to make some of those people want to try us out.&nbsp; The young kids are the LIFEBLOOD of the hobby, we should do everything possible to encourage them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belen, post: 827040, member: 1405"] I have to admit that I never thought my rant would go so far, but it is good to hear the thoughts of others on the boards. It's great to see that civility can reign again on the boards. While I was hoping that no one would take my original post personally, I had expected a different response. Thank you, Eric, for keeping things on track and adding the humor and wit that the conversation needed! Earthshadow: Great posts and I agree with you. (Note: Not about the d20 system though) It's the attitude of the guys you encountered that has turned a lot of players away. I think the edition wars has a lot to do with this as well. The flame wars between the 2e and 3e crowd are vicious and can appear in just about any post. Personally, I have seen non-DnD people act just as superior, especially before d20. You were automatically looked down upon if you played such a "broken" game. Heck, I never played the other games because 1) I have already invested a considerable amount of money in DnD 2) I just cannot learn multiple systems. It's hard enough to recruit players in the bible belt! Reaper: Thanks for the vote of confidence and the support. I WAS hoping to provoke discussion and I have enjoyed all the great posts. NoOneofconsequence also makes some great remarks. I used to post a lot of my concerns and problems on EnWorld, but the flaming and lacks of response has driven me away recently. I would say that 4 out of 5 of my players have switched to the <gasp> WOTC boards because we see more civility there. Heck, I started posting there too! I see much less flame there, but not as much experience. It seems that a lot of younger gamers are there as compared to EnWorld. (Would that be a cause of concern? Does EnWorld not provide a good environment for younger players?) Azlan hits the mark on the head with his definitions of snobbery. My definition would include those and add that anyone who disses someone for an opinion, mocks them, or feel superior because they can PROVE someone is wrong is an gaming elitist. Maybe we should begin to wonder why WOTC gets the younger crowd. EnWorld's name gets thrown around there often enough to make some of those people want to try us out. The young kids are the LIFEBLOOD of the hobby, we should do everything possible to encourage them. [/QUOTE]

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