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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7788894" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>The difference between rules and what Frylock did is pretty clear. In my understanding of US law (vs Euro law).</p><p></p><p>For example, if I wanted to say you roll a D20 and if it is over a specific defensive number, you score a hit on something...that's a rule.</p><p></p><p>Or, if I say that a 25/5 +5 = 10, that's math and not under plagiarism.</p><p></p><p>HOWEVER...</p><p></p><p>If I say...</p><p></p><p>The name is Greylord.</p><p></p><p>Greylord has an Armor class of 15</p><p></p><p>Greylord has a bonus to hit of 12</p><p></p><p>Greylord has 17 Health</p><p></p><p>And list an abbreviation of Greylord - Armor: 15 - Bonus to Hit: 12 - Health - 17</p><p></p><p>That's a specific pattern. It's not math, it's specifically stated in a specific way. If someone then copies it exactly or very nearly like this so they say...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That text that they quoted, starts getting very close to what could be plagiarism. It would be debatable.. The math and rules may not be, but once you start copying the words and numbers in the exact format or pattern they are in, that starts down the path of plagiarism</p><p></p><p>Now if the above is under the OGL specifically, then no problem as long as the OGL is included in the text somewhere.</p><p></p><p>IF IT IS SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED...OR...if the formatting specifically includes the specific pattern found in the BOOKS but excluded from the OGL and does not use an original format or that of the OGL and spefically uses a formatting from WOTC...</p><p></p><p>It still may be foggy if it's just that short...but once he slapped his OWN copyright on it...that starts to be pretty clear cut. He would have had to delineate between what is HIS and what is NOT...but if he included the WotC formats and patterns in his own work and simply said it's copyright to him...well....not a GOOD thing from my viewpoint/opinion.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.plagiarism.org/article/what-is-plagiarism" target="_blank">what is plagiarism</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As found at</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.plagiarism.org/blog/2018/02/27/how-similar-is-too-similar" target="_blank">How similar is too similar? - Plagiarism.org</a></p><p></p><p>One of the big problems I'm seeing here is the double slap where he did not cite the reference directly AND he then put a copyright which made it appear that he copyrighted WotC's ideas and materials as his own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7788894, member: 4348"] The difference between rules and what Frylock did is pretty clear. In my understanding of US law (vs Euro law). For example, if I wanted to say you roll a D20 and if it is over a specific defensive number, you score a hit on something...that's a rule. Or, if I say that a 25/5 +5 = 10, that's math and not under plagiarism. HOWEVER... If I say... The name is Greylord. Greylord has an Armor class of 15 Greylord has a bonus to hit of 12 Greylord has 17 Health And list an abbreviation of Greylord - Armor: 15 - Bonus to Hit: 12 - Health - 17 That's a specific pattern. It's not math, it's specifically stated in a specific way. If someone then copies it exactly or very nearly like this so they say... That text that they quoted, starts getting very close to what could be plagiarism. It would be debatable.. The math and rules may not be, but once you start copying the words and numbers in the exact format or pattern they are in, that starts down the path of plagiarism Now if the above is under the OGL specifically, then no problem as long as the OGL is included in the text somewhere. IF IT IS SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED...OR...if the formatting specifically includes the specific pattern found in the BOOKS but excluded from the OGL and does not use an original format or that of the OGL and spefically uses a formatting from WOTC... It still may be foggy if it's just that short...but once he slapped his OWN copyright on it...that starts to be pretty clear cut. He would have had to delineate between what is HIS and what is NOT...but if he included the WotC formats and patterns in his own work and simply said it's copyright to him...well....not a GOOD thing from my viewpoint/opinion. [URL='https://www.plagiarism.org/article/what-is-plagiarism']what is plagiarism[/URL] As found at [URL='https://www.plagiarism.org/blog/2018/02/27/how-similar-is-too-similar']How similar is too similar? - Plagiarism.org[/URL] One of the big problems I'm seeing here is the double slap where he did not cite the reference directly AND he then put a copyright which made it appear that he copyrighted WotC's ideas and materials as his own. [/QUOTE]
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