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Frylock's Gaming & Geekery Challenges WotC's Copyright Claims
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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 7015506" data-source="post: 7789520"><p>[USER=6689464]@MoonSong[/USER]</p><p></p><p>My remark was too general. I know, that in the case of D&D for example characters from their settings (DL, GH, FR, etc.) and similar related things can´t be copied without permission by the right holders. So sorry for evoking the emotion, that his probable intention is to have everything on a free not copyright protected basis. But as I perceive the american legal system, the whole affair might create a prime case on which other cases might be based, if Frylock wins a probable court case, resulting perhaps in a dam break concerning copyrights in the gaming industry.</p><p></p><p>[USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER]</p><p></p><p>I agree with your statement 100%. The basic line I intended to bring across is, that his work is not published under any cover of any license at all by WotC, making it a copyright infringement (at least for me). And since his work (for me) is based to a large extend (subjective impression here) on the works of others, it is not genuine. So stamping a general copyright tag without any expression on it, what implies (again in my point of view), that the published work is his own work. Now I don´t know in how far you have to explicitly state what is copyrighted of your work when putting the copyright tag on a work. But when done in such a case, I think it is not justified nor legal. </p><p></p><p>Let me explain: The monster stats are based certainly on a unique/creative design basis. They follow a certain pattern when it comes to determining HP for example. And that pattern is a creative/unique design process, therefore (as I understand it) protected by copyright laws. Simply copying them, bringing them into a new order is probably copyright infringement, since you use this numerical values without permission and no creative alterations were applied beyond the changing of its presentation.</p><p></p><p>And one basic aspect I think might be important is the question, if stat blocks are falling under the category of being rules. Rules normally state how something is done or not. Now that might apply to the abilities of the monsters turning the stats into rules, but perhaps not. That is for others to decide or determine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 7015506, post: 7789520"] [USER=6689464]@MoonSong[/USER] My remark was too general. I know, that in the case of D&D for example characters from their settings (DL, GH, FR, etc.) and similar related things can´t be copied without permission by the right holders. So sorry for evoking the emotion, that his probable intention is to have everything on a free not copyright protected basis. But as I perceive the american legal system, the whole affair might create a prime case on which other cases might be based, if Frylock wins a probable court case, resulting perhaps in a dam break concerning copyrights in the gaming industry. [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] I agree with your statement 100%. The basic line I intended to bring across is, that his work is not published under any cover of any license at all by WotC, making it a copyright infringement (at least for me). And since his work (for me) is based to a large extend (subjective impression here) on the works of others, it is not genuine. So stamping a general copyright tag without any expression on it, what implies (again in my point of view), that the published work is his own work. Now I don´t know in how far you have to explicitly state what is copyrighted of your work when putting the copyright tag on a work. But when done in such a case, I think it is not justified nor legal. Let me explain: The monster stats are based certainly on a unique/creative design basis. They follow a certain pattern when it comes to determining HP for example. And that pattern is a creative/unique design process, therefore (as I understand it) protected by copyright laws. Simply copying them, bringing them into a new order is probably copyright infringement, since you use this numerical values without permission and no creative alterations were applied beyond the changing of its presentation. And one basic aspect I think might be important is the question, if stat blocks are falling under the category of being rules. Rules normally state how something is done or not. Now that might apply to the abilities of the monsters turning the stats into rules, but perhaps not. That is for others to decide or determine. [/QUOTE]
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