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<blockquote data-quote="Kershek" data-source="post: 1162882" data-attributes="member: 2900">Frank, thanks for listing out a combat.&nbsp; I have some questions about it.I thought natural weapons never got iterative attacks.Why is that?&nbsp; Why can't the other claw and bite go on the rogue?&nbsp; Is it because they are now in a grapple?&nbsp; But the bear isn't grappled because it took a -20.&nbsp; It is allowed to finish its full attack.&nbsp; It doesn't make sense that it can finish its full attack on everyone but the rogue it grappled, does it?Could the bear use its grappled claw to pin the rogue at -20, and then use the other claw and bite on a different opponent?&nbsp; After all, those are the options it had last round when grappling the rogue in the first place.What do you mean by &quot;turn the grapple around&quot;?&nbsp; I thought that when you were grappled, both grapplers were equal.&nbsp; And if the grapple was done by the bear at -20, why would it suddenly get its full +16 bonus?Isn't unarmed damage just regular damage for a bear that has natural weapons?&nbsp; I didn't think they could inflict non-lethal damage with them.&nbsp; If that is true, why would they do an attack at -4 when they could roll a grapple (which would be much better than an attack) and just do full damage with the claw anyways?I'm also keen on hearing how a tiger with a rake would continue a grapple after its first pounce round.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kershek, post: 1162882, member: 2900"] Frank, thanks for listing out a combat. I have some questions about it. I thought natural weapons never got iterative attacks. Why is that? Why can't the other claw and bite go on the rogue? Is it because they are now in a grapple? But the bear isn't grappled because it took a -20. It is allowed to finish its full attack. It doesn't make sense that it can finish its full attack on everyone but the rogue it grappled, does it? Could the bear use its grappled claw to pin the rogue at -20, and then use the other claw and bite on a different opponent? After all, those are the options it had last round when grappling the rogue in the first place. What do you mean by "turn the grapple around"? I thought that when you were grappled, both grapplers were equal. And if the grapple was done by the bear at -20, why would it suddenly get its full +16 bonus? Isn't unarmed damage just regular damage for a bear that has natural weapons? I didn't think they could inflict non-lethal damage with them. If that is true, why would they do an attack at -4 when they could roll a grapple (which would be much better than an attack) and just do full damage with the claw anyways? I'm also keen on hearing how a tiger with a rake would continue a grapple after its first pounce round. [/QUOTE]

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