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<blockquote data-quote="Tilla the Hun (work)" data-source="post: 1209785" data-attributes="member: 14214"><p>How utterly fascinating. I started out thinking I knew what was what, proved myself wrong, then discovered details I never Knew as regarding 2wF...</p><p></p><p>So, get this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) To make more than attack requires the Full Attack Action (full round).</p><p> 1a) Even if armed with 2 weapons, to hit with the second requires the full attack action... huh.</p><p>2) To Wield a weapon in your off hand, is to 'fight with two weapons'.</p><p> 2a) To 'fight this way', i.e. to 'fight with two weapons' means you 'can' get an extra attack, but regardless of the extra attack, you take penalties.</p><p></p><p>This answers a previous question someone had regarding holding a dagger in their off hand, but not attacking with it... Just the longsword in their primary. It doesn't matter - you still take the penalties.</p><p></p><p>I think it's a fairly clear implication that the phrase 'to fight this way' refers to 'fight with two weapons'. While I can see the arguement that it refers to taking that extra attack, I'd have to disagree. It doesn't say 'when taking this extra attack', it says 'fighting this way' and the full attack option references it as 2 weapon fighting.</p><p></p><p>However, like I said, I can see the counter-arguement, I just don't agree, believing that the rules are actually 'clear' - or at least as clear as they can get for 3/3.5 dnd <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>That said, given my intrepretation there, how would a fighter swing at +5 and at +6/+1? Because I've managed to utterly confuse myself regarding the nature, order, and penalties to the attacks. Assume no TWF profs, and show the calculations behind the numbers, please???</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tilla the Hun (work), post: 1209785, member: 14214"] How utterly fascinating. I started out thinking I knew what was what, proved myself wrong, then discovered details I never Knew as regarding 2wF... So, get this: 1) To make more than attack requires the Full Attack Action (full round). 1a) Even if armed with 2 weapons, to hit with the second requires the full attack action... huh. 2) To Wield a weapon in your off hand, is to 'fight with two weapons'. 2a) To 'fight this way', i.e. to 'fight with two weapons' means you 'can' get an extra attack, but regardless of the extra attack, you take penalties. This answers a previous question someone had regarding holding a dagger in their off hand, but not attacking with it... Just the longsword in their primary. It doesn't matter - you still take the penalties. I think it's a fairly clear implication that the phrase 'to fight this way' refers to 'fight with two weapons'. While I can see the arguement that it refers to taking that extra attack, I'd have to disagree. It doesn't say 'when taking this extra attack', it says 'fighting this way' and the full attack option references it as 2 weapon fighting. However, like I said, I can see the counter-arguement, I just don't agree, believing that the rules are actually 'clear' - or at least as clear as they can get for 3/3.5 dnd :) That said, given my intrepretation there, how would a fighter swing at +5 and at +6/+1? Because I've managed to utterly confuse myself regarding the nature, order, and penalties to the attacks. Assume no TWF profs, and show the calculations behind the numbers, please??? [/QUOTE]
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