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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Madfox" data-source="post: 131692" data-attributes="member: 1714">You can take AOO when taking the full defensive action, the sage adviced in that same remark to give this AOO a -4 penalty just as with fighting defensive. Besides, to fight defensively you have to make an actual melee attack roll that round. So under a lot of circumstances characters cannot fight defensively at all. I have little problems with allowing AOO for characters on the full defensive.I wonder if you ever tried to wrestle with a giant <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Size does not matter in the d20 system if it is within the same size category. Since all humans fall within the same size category your statement is in the actual rules. A large sized creature though is at least 10 ft tall and I doubt you ever wrestled with one of these <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> In the official grapple rules, actually grabbing the opponent is more difficult for the bigger target. After all, a normal touch attack is required before the pinning attempt can be made. The size difference bonusses (or penalties) only come into play when the hold/grapple starts.</blockquote>

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