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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8132340" data-attributes="member: 72555">No, I want feats to complete at level 4 with ASIs.I don't want to wait until level 8 (fighters) to 10 (everyone else) for taking character defining non-numeric boosts to be a non-trap outside of charop situations.I am willing to accept that many games will fall apart before level 8, or players will leave games, and that if someone has to wait until level 8-12 to take a fun character defining feat without falling behind, that sucks.I have seen the effect of a PC with 16 in an attack stat and no strong feats at level 12, and it really doesn't work well next to players who have 20 in an attack stat and 1-2 strong feats.If the their ASIs where not trap options, I think the game would be more interesting for them and for the entire party.  Sure, if they take 3 non-combat feats, I think they should not be as strong in combat as someone who takes 3 combat feats or ASIs; but, I think they should be simply exploding with useful out of combat utility as a result.There are already feats that reach the standard of rivaling a +2 to a primary stat; XBE and PAM are two of them, that rival (if not eclipse) +2 to your primary attack stat.  I think they are a bit strong at level 1 (where you aren't trading them for +2 to your primary attack stat, but rather +1 or less by taking vhuman), but by level 5 they are just about right (when they go from 2x as many attacks to 1.5x as many attacks).  I have shown the math above; a XBE level 5 extra attack(2) character is getting a 5% DPR boost over +2 dex.On the other hand, at level 1, XBE 16 dex vs heavy crossbow 16 dex is about a 50% boost in damage, which is too much.  Part of the problem is that the free choice feat at level 1 is stronger than other racial features by a good measure, and that a 2nd tap is a much larger percent boost than 3rd tap is.  Together they give XBE (and PAM) a bad name.</blockquote>

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