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<blockquote data-quote="Dichotomy" data-source="post: 3647712" data-attributes="member: 12941">worthley and I have talked a bit about the spellbook thing.&nbsp; Basic issue: the rules as written seem just plain dumb.For reference:[sblock=The RAW (slightly edited)][/sblock]Summary: Bazrim has new spellbooks.&nbsp; They are not &quot;his,&quot; rather, they are &quot;borrowed,&quot; even though he owns them now.&nbsp; Under the RAW, he must:1) Either make a DC 20 + spell level spellcraft check or use read magic to decipher the spellbooks (he already did this, using read magic);2) Spend an entire day (for each spell) studying it, then make another spellcraft check (DC 15 + spell level) to &quot;understand&quot; the spell;3) Spend an entire day (again) and use up 1 page per spell level (at a cost of 100 gp each page) actually writing the spell in his spellbook.Note that I copied the rules regarding preparing spells from &quot;borrowed&quot; spellbooks.&nbsp; However, note the first sentence in the section: &quot;A wizard can use a borrowed spellbook to prepare a spell she already knows and has recorded in her own spellbook [...]&quot; (emphasis supplied).&nbsp; I actually missed that the first time I read it.&nbsp; So, under the RAW, Bazrim can't treat these as &quot;borrowed&quot; spellbooks at all (unless he happens to know some of the spells in them, but that's not much use).&nbsp; Even if it did apply, it would require daily spellcraft checks.So, while m_n was exaggerating, the point is well taken.&nbsp; I think that m_n and I had once upon a time designed some houseruled fix that we liked, however, I don't recall any details about it.What do you guys think?&nbsp; Is it a problem, or do you think the RAW is fine?&nbsp; Any proposals for fixing it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dichotomy, post: 3647712, member: 12941"] worthley and I have talked a bit about the spellbook thing. Basic issue: the rules as written seem just plain dumb. For reference:[sblock=The RAW (slightly edited)][/sblock] Summary: Bazrim has new spellbooks. They are not "his," rather, they are "borrowed," even though he owns them now. Under the RAW, he must: 1) Either make a DC 20 + spell level spellcraft check or use read magic to decipher the spellbooks (he already did this, using read magic); 2) Spend an entire day (for each spell) studying it, then make another spellcraft check (DC 15 + spell level) to "understand" the spell; 3) Spend an entire day (again) and use up 1 page per spell level (at a cost of 100 gp each page) actually writing the spell in his spellbook. Note that I copied the rules regarding preparing spells from "borrowed" spellbooks. However, note the first sentence in the section: "A wizard can use a borrowed spellbook to prepare a spell she [i]already knows and has recorded in her own spellbook[/i] [...]" (emphasis supplied). I actually missed that the first time I read it. So, under the RAW, Bazrim can't treat these as "borrowed" spellbooks at all (unless he happens to know some of the spells in them, but that's not much use). Even if it did apply, it would require daily spellcraft checks. So, while m_n was exaggerating, the point is well taken. I think that m_n and I had once upon a time designed some houseruled fix that we liked, however, I don't recall any details about it. What do you guys think? Is it a problem, or do you think the RAW is fine? Any proposals for fixing it? [/QUOTE]

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