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Message: <blockquote data-quote="michael_noah" data-source="post: 3649436" data-attributes="member: 40131">EDITS!I think maybe I misremembered what we had done before?  Deciphering a spell doesn't actually take any time.  Only writing it in a book takes time.  Even preparing from a borrowed book takes time.  Huh...1)We all agree here.2)But see, it isn't just writing that we wait 3 days to tie up loose ends.  Say, look at our current situation.  To be more extreme, what if we're all adventuring at level 16, and we level up.  Yay!  except for wes.  he gets nothing.  We could wait around for him, but then the bad guy will have already won.  Sucks to be Wes.  See?I agree completely that the flavor of the wizard is that he's all boring and crappy and spends all his time reading books.  That just doesn't work with the rest of the world, like the clerics who are awesome and exciting and go around kicking ass.3)Meh4)I was just noting that we weren't changing this rule.  I think it's important to note which parts we're not changing.  I think we all agreed on this?  (there's more to it than paying a wizard to copy, you actually have to pay to write it in your book)  I do think, though, that we changed this time requirement to also be 1 hour/level.5)Right, I just mean that it shouldn't be an additional check every single time.Additional notes:According to the RAW, you can't even cast a spell from a "borrowed" book unless you have it written in "your" book.  First, this is dumb.  Second, it makes no difference from a player wealth perspective.  By the RAW, found spellbooks are worth exactly 0.  After you spend gold, then your spellbook is worth more.  Then the DM has to give you more treasure.  Why not just have the spellbook you found be worth gold in the first place?Secondly, even though you can't cast a spell from a "borrowed" book, you can understand it well enough that you can write it in "your" book (this is the coppying procedure).  This makes no sense.The RAW time to write a 9th level spell in a book is 1 day.  This is essentially the same as 9 hours, since you also have to rest 8, etc, so we're barely changing high level spells at all - we're just making low level ones easier.The way that it is easier for high level casters to do stuff is the Spellcraft check.  If a wizard fails the check, they can't try again until the next day.  I don't think we need to penalize low level wizards more than that by making it slower.</blockquote>

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