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Message: <blockquote data-quote="o3caudata" data-source="post: 3731757" data-attributes="member: 45361">I vote we change the rules to read as such:You can create any wondrous item whose prerequisites you meet. Enchanting a wondrous item takes one casting of every required spell for every 1,000 gp in its price, and a minimum of one day. To enchant a wondrous item, you must spend 1/25 of the item’s price in XP and use up raw materials costing half of this price.And that we get to playing again.(my justification is: m_n will whine if we don't.  the point of this whole thing is to have fun.  I seriously doubt that we'll have less fun as a result of this.  Especially if m_n actually makes things for all of us <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> it will still take time to craft.  16,000 gp +4 str things are not going to be a "hey, i'll make this now, while she runs inside to gather some information" sorts of things.  if it's your goal to prevent m_n from crafting, it'll still be within your power to move the group to be able to do so.  if you're goal is to attempt to drive some non-combat, non-pre-built-storyline roleplaying, you'll still be provided the opportunity to.  More than we would be if we took the feat away, or left it as is [as m_n has already said he'd never use it.] To me, this solution might actually present SOME opportunity to incorporate those aspects into our games, and possibly we will find that we enjoy them and in the future not need to fight so vigorously to avoid them.)and now, to continue this discussion, i would like to move on to m_n's next point of argument: "wondrous items should not have a predetermined body slot.  rather, they should have a slot which is similarly fitting for the enhancement being provided. for instance, there is no reason a +2 cha thing needs to be a cloak, a periapt or robe should be equally fitting. many other similar situations exist."thank you and have a good sunday.</blockquote>

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