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<blockquote data-quote="Jondor_Battlehammer" data-source="post: 602502" data-attributes="member: 5335">Well, IRL, full plat took a VERY long time to make. But this is fantasy, AND D&amp;D, so a year plus isn't normally acceptable. As a fudge idea, you could make Crafting like magical creation, where the cost is equal to 1/2 the market price. For mundane items, which use 1/3 rd the raw materials, that would cut crafting times by 2/3rds.But lets say you are in a decent sized city, and you can find a competent smith who isn't back logged with commisions, and can just jump on your project.7th level Expert&nbsp;&nbsp; Craft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10 RanksINT 14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +2Skill Focus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +3 (Eratta)MW tools&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +2Two Apprentices&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +4Total&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +21Taking a 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Check at 31Crafting DC of 18 (10 + AC bonus)18 X 31 = 55815,000 (Cost in SP) / 558 = 27 weeks, or 6 1/2 months. Ugly, but not unrealistic.Now bump him up to 10th level, add a couple more apprentices, and then use the ELH skill section to bump up the DC by 10. This gives you a total of a 38 check and a 38 DC.38 X 38 = 144415,000 / 1444 = 10 weeks, or 2 1/2 months. All not including Masterwork. Not bad for 50lbs of inticatley worked metal. You could even cut down the time further by using raw materials as opposed to base price, for a time frame of 2 months and 3 weeks, respectivley.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jondor_Battlehammer, post: 602502, member: 5335"] Well, IRL, full plat took a VERY long time to make. But this is fantasy, AND D&D, so a year plus isn't normally acceptable. As a fudge idea, you could make Crafting like magical creation, where the cost is equal to 1/2 the market price. For mundane items, which use 1/3 rd the raw materials, that would cut crafting times by 2/3rds. But lets say you are in a decent sized city, and you can find a competent smith who isn't back logged with commisions, and can just jump on your project. 7th level Expert Craft 10 Ranks INT 14 +2 Skill Focus +3 (Eratta) MW tools +2 Two Apprentices +4 Total +21 Taking a 10 Check at 31 Crafting DC of 18 (10 + AC bonus) 18 X 31 = 558 15,000 (Cost in SP) / 558 = 27 weeks, or 6 1/2 months. Ugly, but not unrealistic. Now bump him up to 10th level, add a couple more apprentices, and then use the ELH skill section to bump up the DC by 10. This gives you a total of a 38 check and a 38 DC. 38 X 38 = 1444 15,000 / 1444 = 10 weeks, or 2 1/2 months. All not including Masterwork. Not bad for 50lbs of inticatley worked metal. You could even cut down the time further by using raw materials as opposed to base price, for a time frame of 2 months and 3 weeks, respectivley. [/QUOTE]

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