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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 5076232" data-attributes="member: 14506">I think I have it:Multiattack [General]PrerequisiteNoneBenefitThe creature’s secondary attacks take only a -2 penalty.NormalWithout this feat, the creature’s secondary attacks take a -5 penalty. Improved Multiattack [General]Prerequisite+6 BAB, MultiattackBenefitThe creature’s secondary attacks have no penalty. They still add only one-half the creature’s Strength bonus, if any, to damage dealt.NormalWithout this feat, the creature’s secondary attacks have a -5 penalty (or a -2 penalty if it has the Multiattack feat). Greater Multiattack [General]Prerequisite+11 BAB, Improved MultiattackBenefitThe creature’s secondary attacks add the creature’s Strength bonus, if any, to damage dealt.NormalWithout this feat, the creature’s secondary attacks only add one-half the creature's Strength bonus. Flurry [General]Prerequisite+6 BABBenefitThe creature's primary and secondary attacks attack twice. All attacks are at -4 to hit.NormalWithout this feat, each primary and secondary attack can only make one attack.Improved Flurry [General]Prerequisite+11 BAB, FlurryBenefitThe creature's primary and secondary attacks attack three times. All attacks are at -4 to hit.NormalWithout this feat, each primary and secondary attack can only make one attack.Greater Flurry [General]Prerequisite+16 BAB, Improved FlurryBenefitWhen a creature uses Flurry the attacks are at -2 to hit.NormalWithout this feat, each primary and secondary attack has a -4 to attack when making a Flurry attack.Okay, so two characters with 18 strength at level 1/6/11Level 1Greatsword+1 feat+5 2d6+6Long Sword/Short SwordMultiattack+5 1d8+4+3 1d6+2Level 6GreatswordFlurry+2 feats+6 2d6+6+6 2d6+6Long sword/Short SwordMultiattackFlurry+1 feat+6 1d8+4+6 1d8+4+4 1d6+2+4 1d6+2Level 11GreatswordFlurryImproved Flurry+4 feats+11 2d6+6+11 2d6+6+11 2d6+6Long sword/Short SwordMultiattackImproved MultiattackFlurryImproved Flurry+2 feats+11 1d8+4+11 1d8+4+11 1d8+4+11 1d6+2+11 1d6+2+11 1d6+2These are a lot closer now. Basically these are the following changes from my previous proposal:1. Flurry affects all primary and secondary attacks2. Your primary hand when two weapon fighting is a primary attack no penalty to hit and full strength. Your secondary attacks are -5 to hit and 1/2 strength. With the feat it of course lowers this to -2 and the improved to -0.My initial thought, was to have every attack (primary or secondary) be rolled with the same modifier. As I thought about it it is likely that a two weapon fighter is going to have different modifiers anyway on each hand (+3 longsword and a +2 short sword etc.). They would likely be rolling the dice at different times anyway. So now a two weapon fighter rolls his primary hand and secondary hand in different die rolls. Why make fighting with two weapons a special case for the primary and secondary attack monster rules? They fit so well here too. Anyway, I would like to hear thoughts on this.</blockquote>

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