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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 2213122" data-attributes="member: 15999">OF COURSE NOT.  I never said it was balanced.  Go re-read my post again - I specifically noted that the THF does better against a higher AC, and you bring up that as a point to rebut my post?Where, exactly, did I say TWF was "equitable" or "balanced"?  I spelled out certain circumstances in which the TWF does well (and, yes, I forgot the off-hand Str penalty, my mistake; on the other hand, I did use 2 short swords rather than long-short or 2-bladed sword).  And I specifically acknowledged that THF is more powerful due to the times when you only get one attack - AOOs or when moving.  Of course if you don't have a bard or cleric you don't get the benefit of their abilities.  That's irrelevant to my point, which was that TWF tends to benefit more than other styles from abilities that apply a bonus to damage (I see that you caught this point in your first reply).  Because it starts out so far behind, as you noted, this isn't a game-breaker - but it was a simple statistical observation, not an assessment of the overall power of the two styles.  I came up with a situation using variables from the 9th-level game in which I play (bard with boosted Inspire Courage, Str 16 fighter-type, AC +/-20 foes).  Looking at the MM, most CR 6 monsters do have AC of 20 or less (even dragons and outsiders).Now, you mention that only Fighters get specialization.  True, but other classes have their own bonuses that give more of an advantage to TWF than to THF:Ranger doesn't get Specialization, but Favored Enemy bonus can be as high as +13.  A Ranger with the two-weapon combat style gets several feats for free without needing the 19 Dex, so the TWF style works well for the Ranger.Swashbuckler doesn't get Specialization, but can use Int bonus.Paladin doesn't get Specialization, but can use Smite and Divine Might.Dervish Dance gives up to +5, which stacks with Specialization.The TWF build is great for rogues, of course.Barbarian, true, is always best with THF, as are other Str-based builds.</blockquote>

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